The bill doesn't specify the manner of notification. If you look at other informed consent legislation we've worked on with abortion, it's very specific what they have to say, because they have incentive to lie. All we want is to stop doctors and nurses from giving out bad info.
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Replying to @Right_to_Life @H_SalemOaks and
In other words, you specifically want them to say what's in the bill, even though it's emotionally manipulative and misleading. That's not informed consent. Nor does it respect conscience, because misleading people does not.
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Replying to @doritmi @H_SalemOaks and
You're a professor of law that teaches admin. law. You should know how legislation works. If we wanted them to say that, and only that, the bill would specify that. The bill does not specify the manner or wording of such notice, nor does it restrict in any way what can be said.
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Dr. Ottesen, do people have a right to know this information?
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Replying to @Right_to_Life @VegarOttesen and
RTL, do people have a right to know the accurate, full information on this? Or do they deserve to be misled and given partial, manipulative information?
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Replying to @Right_to_Life @VegarOttesen and
I have no problem with people having full, accurate information. In fact, I think they should. That isn't what this bill does. Now answer mine.
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Replying to @doritmi @VegarOttesen and
This bill doesn't do what you describe. Do you not trust doctors and nurses to give people in-depth details on it? Because right now, many are not giving their patients full, accurate information, like this:http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/oakland-county-mom-in-court-battle-over-not-vaccinating-her-child …
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Replying to @Right_to_Life @VegarOttesen and
The language of the bill was quoted to you. You linked to a court session, not a patient/doctor interaction.
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Also, that woman is an all around antivaxer. She doesn't want to vaccinate, period. She's just using the "fetal tissue" gambit as an excuse, as many antivaxers do. Note how she doesn't say she'd vaccinate her children with vaccines that aren't manufactured using those cell lines.
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If Dr. Jack Kevorkian of all people had an ethical objection to a vaccine based on the use of abortion, we'll defend that objection; we don't decide if someone is on our team first. We don't care what she does about vaccines unrelated to abortion.
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