We all agree that Weinstein-like quid pro quo coercion is illegal. But if you're talking about seduction, manipulation...? I think we have to leave that alone.
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Replying to @iwrotesham @gorskon and
'manipulation' is ok to get someone to sleep with you? ok. I hope i never attend a conference with people with that opinion. I tough the world had moved on but maybe not
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Replying to @Stick_Pins @FinchLydia and
All salesmanship is manipulation. And salesmanship is ubiquitous in American society. How do we draw a line between persuasion that you consider acceptable and persuasion that crosses a line? I don't think these things can be litigated. Honestly.
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Replying to @iwrotesham @gorskon and
im not american and if you need persuasion or salesmanship to get someone to sleep with you, they should probably run a mile and you need to work on yourself.
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Replying to @Stick_Pins @FinchLydia and
I am American and I gave up that salesmanship with my personal examination of awful behaviors I admitted to at the beginning of this thread.
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Replying to @maxkatz515 @FinchLydia and
We're trying to sell each other right now. And you're doing a better job of it than I am, based on what peers think. We all sell. All the time.
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Replying to @iwrotesham @FinchLydia and
I'm not trying to sell you sexuality right now. Those goalposts just can't stay still I guess.
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Replying to @maxkatz515 @FinchLydia and
For a bunch of skeptics you sure are close-minded. OK you win. People are getting unduly nasty and ad hominem. The last refuge of the weak mind. Enjoy your intellectually cloistered lives (not directed at @skepticpedi or
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Replying to @iwrotesham @maxkatz515 and
Ad hominem. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Ditto close-minded. Of course, flouncing off like that and dismissing reasonable arguments as "close-minded" is a lake and obvious ploy when you're losing.
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Replying to @gorskon @maxkatz515 and
No, sir, it's just not worth it. I've been widely published on these/associated ideas (elite publications) and I'm proud of my oeuvre and see no reason to get down in the gutter. I believe in individual responsibility: stop projecting blame etc. Half my book is devoted to that.
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Oooh. You have "elite publications"? Do tell! Look, I get it. It hurts to be told that your views are regressive and part of the problem when it comes to sexual predation against women. Instead of getting all defensive and self-righteous, maybe once just consider listening.
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