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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. Steve Salerno ... ᴀs Eᴅᴇɴ sɪɴᴋs ᴛᴏ ɢʀɪᴇғ.‏ @iwrotesham 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Stick_Pins @FinchLydia and

      To me, predator = you force/drug people to have sex with you. There is, must be, a huge difference between a predator and a player. Or a predator and a sleazebag. I'm not nuts about the "power imbalance" dynamic, either. I accept it as policy, but I deem it wrong.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @iwrotesham @FinchLydia and

      Your definition of "predator" is woefully limited.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Steve Salerno ... ᴀs Eᴅᴇɴ sɪɴᴋs ᴛᴏ ɢʀɪᴇғ.‏ @iwrotesham 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @gorskon @FinchLydia and

      We all agree that Weinstein-like quid pro quo coercion is illegal. But if you're talking about seduction, manipulation...? I think we have to leave that alone.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Stuck in pins‏ @Stick_Pins 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @iwrotesham @gorskon and

      'manipulation' is ok to get someone to sleep with you? ok. I hope i never attend a conference with people with that opinion. I tough the world had moved on but maybe not

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Steve Salerno ... ᴀs Eᴅᴇɴ sɪɴᴋs ᴛᴏ ɢʀɪᴇғ.‏ @iwrotesham 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Stick_Pins @FinchLydia and

      All salesmanship is manipulation. And salesmanship is ubiquitous in American society. How do we draw a line between persuasion that you consider acceptable and persuasion that crosses a line? I don't think these things can be litigated. Honestly.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Stuck in pins‏ @Stick_Pins 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @iwrotesham @gorskon and

      im not american and if you need persuasion or salesmanship to get someone to sleep with you, they should probably run a mile and you need to work on yourself.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Crusty-Eyed Milquetoast Neoliberal‏ @maxkatz515 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Stick_Pins @FinchLydia and

      I am American and I gave up that salesmanship with my personal examination of awful behaviors I admitted to at the beginning of this thread.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Steve Salerno ... ᴀs Eᴅᴇɴ sɪɴᴋs ᴛᴏ ɢʀɪᴇғ.‏ @iwrotesham 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @maxkatz515 @FinchLydia and

      We're trying to sell each other right now. And you're doing a better job of it than I am, based on what peers think. We all sell. All the time.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Crusty-Eyed Milquetoast Neoliberal‏ @maxkatz515 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @iwrotesham @FinchLydia and

      I'm not trying to sell you sexuality right now. Those goalposts just can't stay still I guess.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Steve Salerno ... ᴀs Eᴅᴇɴ sɪɴᴋs ᴛᴏ ɢʀɪᴇғ.‏ @iwrotesham 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @maxkatz515 @FinchLydia and

      For a bunch of skeptics you sure are close-minded. OK you win. People are getting unduly nasty and ad hominem. The last refuge of the weak mind. Enjoy your intellectually cloistered lives (not directed at @skepticpedi or @stevennovella)

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @iwrotesham @maxkatz515 and

      Ad hominem. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Ditto close-minded. Of course, flouncing off like that and dismissing reasonable arguments as "close-minded" is a lake and obvious ploy when you're losing.

      9:47 AM - 8 Jun 2018
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        1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 8 Jun 2018
          Replying to @gorskon @iwrotesham and

          Lame and obvious ploy. Smartphone keyboard strikes again. 🤦‍♂️

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        2. Steve Salerno ... ᴀs Eᴅᴇɴ sɪɴᴋs ᴛᴏ ɢʀɪᴇғ.‏ @iwrotesham 8 Jun 2018
          Replying to @gorskon @maxkatz515 and

          No, sir, it's just not worth it. I've been widely published on these/associated ideas (elite publications) and I'm proud of my oeuvre and see no reason to get down in the gutter. I believe in individual responsibility: stop projecting blame etc. Half my book is devoted to that.

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        3. Crusty-Eyed Milquetoast Neoliberal‏ @maxkatz515 8 Jun 2018
          Replying to @iwrotesham @gorskon and

          That's weird because you have made every effort in this thread to absolve defined predators of any personal responsibility they might have to not be predators. It's like you don't remember what you just typed or something.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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