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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Grant Ritchey‏ @SkepticalDDS 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @crackedscience @gorskon and

      It's the American Skeptic way! For an extra fee, you can come hang out with the Prism celebrities beyond the velvet rope where rank and file skeptics aren't allowed!

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @SkepticalDDS @crackedscience and

      Since I wasn't invited, I guess I'll pass. I've never paid extra to hang out with skeptic celebrities. 🙄

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    3. Grant Ritchey‏ @SkepticalDDS 7 Jun 2018
      Replying to @gorskon @crackedscience and

      You don't have to, nor do I. Because we're posh. But if the rank and file want to touch the hem of Randi's or the SGU's garments, they have to pony up. You don't see this behaviour at @QEDcon , BTW. (And I hope it stays that way) It is as different as night and day.

      5 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    4. The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe‏ @SkepticsGuide 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @SkepticalDDS @gorskon and

      Grant - that's a bit unfair. The SGU makes itself completely available to all attendees. We hang out, chat with guests, go to the events, and are completely approachable. Like all conferences, people can pay for extra events that take extra work.

      3 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    5. Grant Ritchey‏ @SkepticalDDS 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @SkepticsGuide @gorskon and

      Don't get me wrong. I love the SGU and everyone associated with you! And I know everyone is approachable during the conferences. You guys are great, and I'm sorry I singled you out. However, I do have a problem with the "Class System" that is inherent in American Skepticism.

      3 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    6. Steven Novella‏ @stevennovella 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @SkepticalDDS @SkepticsGuide and

      I still disagree. There is nothing different about skepticism than any other social group. And there is no "class" system - people who's work has value tend to get recognized. Yes, there are self-promoters, like everywhere.

      4 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    7. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @stevennovella @SkepticalDDS and

      I have disagree that there is no class system in skepticism. I only started to appreciate that there is one several years ago, after I started to ascend into its upper 50th percentile. As you say, skepticism is like any other human social group.

      1 reply 2 retweets 5 likes
    8. The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe‏ @SkepticsGuide 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @gorskon @stevennovella and

      This should be a longer conversation. Twitter is limited. I object to referring to this as a "class" system. It has much more to do with just being familiar with people you work with.

      2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    9. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @SkepticsGuide @stevennovella and

      Maybe "class system" doesn't quite convey the idea. Maybe "celebrity system" is a better term. Or maybe a bit of a hybrid. As for the rest, Twitter is Twitter. I used say Twitter is limited too, but discovered it's possible to have surprisingly in depth discussions on Twitter.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. Grant Ritchey‏ @SkepticalDDS 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @gorskon @SkepticsGuide and

      You're right, "class system" is unfair, and brevity forces me to over-generalize in the hopes that people understand the overarching meaning of my concerns, not that I'm being precise in my definitions and classifications.

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 8 Jun 2018
      Replying to @SkepticalDDS @SkepticsGuide and

      On 2nd thought, "class system" implies privilege related solely to the family, caste, etc. you're born to. Maybe "celebrity system"? There are celebrities, most of whom deserve to be celebrities, but there are lots of skeptics who work just as hard but never become famous.

      7:08 AM - 8 Jun 2018
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        2. Grant Ritchey‏ @SkepticalDDS 8 Jun 2018
          Replying to @gorskon @SkepticsGuide and

          That could be better. But it might be an and/also, not an either/or. Celebrity, socio-economic situation, etc. Basically affordability/accessibility plus celebrity.

          4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Grant Ritchey‏ @SkepticalDDS 8 Jun 2018
          Replying to @SkepticalDDS @gorskon and

          At QED, registration is cheap, child care is provided, there are no add-ons, etc. Basically anyone who wants to attend can go (within reason, of course). This results in more age and gender diversity, IMO.

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        2. Thursday's Child‏ @Swoopy 8 Jun 2018
          Replying to @gorskon @SkepticalDDS and

          Lots of skeptics who tirelessly promote the shit out of the work of others. Provide a platform for them to do outreach (before everyone decided to create their own platform). Like Skepticamp organizers. Skeptics in the pub organizers, etc.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. Grant Ritchey‏ @SkepticalDDS 8 Jun 2018
          Replying to @Swoopy @gorskon and

          Indeed! My concerns and criticisms of the "Movement" in no way diminishes the amazing work so many people are doing!! Thanks for pointing that out, Swoopy.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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