If you're actually trying to learn something, please read this thread. https://twitter.com/redlightvoices/status/989804888740818945?s=19 … Incels are NOT just guys who are sad about not getting any.
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Replying to @with_an_eff
thank you -- my googling of the word just defined it as involuntary celibacy so it may help to see multiple subsets in that group - entitlement is an issue in lots of contexts, but it's also frequently lobbed by racists claiming PoC are entitled whiners when they claim microaggro
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Replying to @warrbo
Okay, cool. Well, feminists have been talking about this issue literally for years, so try going back through some blog archives and see what else you can learn.
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Replying to @with_an_eff
"this issue" seems far more complicated then one word that grabs a lot innocent and oppressed people in it
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Replying to @warrbo @with_an_eff
The reddit incel communities *drove out* women who identified as incels b/c of the doctrine that any woman could find a willing sexual partner if they just “lowered their standards”. Self-described incels creates a community founded upon excluding women, & will shout down men
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who are insufficiently misogenistic. I have had (male) friends who initially believed incel communities were support communities for people who had romantic difficulties who were excluded or intimidated out for questioning “women are evil” statements. I am friends w/ other men
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who visited on of the incel subreddits, were horrified, & now firmly reject the labeling. There are plenty of wonderful people of all genders who struggle w/ finding sexual partners but refuse the “incel” label. It seems unhelpful to force it on them against their wishes.
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Replying to @goofyphilogirl @with_an_eff
Interesting and helpful context thank you. But why are we letting redditors define the word. Or if that's the definition why does Wiktionary disagree? One white supremacist group need not malign all white people.
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Replying to @warrbo @with_an_eff
I am letting redditors define the word b/c the reddit community was the largest & the first to bring the word into the zeitgeist that I am aware of. Also, at least partially, b/c there are many people who fit the definition of “involuntarily celibate” vehemently reject the title
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“involuntarily celibate”.
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The also vehemently reject the label “incel” b/c of the horrible views espoused by people who self-identify as “incels”.
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