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My feminism prioritises the material condition of women over the internal identification of men. I am a #mythicalbiologicalfemale.

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    1.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

      JY - 20 minutes ? You left your home at 11 for a 4:30 appt.? JY - not at home, would have to take Skytrain, lots of buses, doesn't like/want to be late, it's not fair to the service provider

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    2.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

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      JY then ask JC if he knows where JY lives. Suggests JC's or the @JCCFCanada's involvement in predator stickers put up in JY's area. JY mentioned these stickers in a previous hearing 👇https://twitter.com/goinglikeelsie/status/1151253536111357952?s=21 …

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       🕸goinglikeelsie @goinglikeelsie
      - says they want, basically, a closed hearing - says Parent identified, against rules -says harassed in real life - shows water bottle on which they have stuck a sticker pulled off a post in XXX, sticker claims JY is a sexual predator - says XXX (not me) is sock puppet of JCCFC
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    3.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

      JC rejects this suggestion and Member cautions JY. ?What is your basis for saying that MD gave you a false address? JY - asks the Member about the service docs that bounced back (wants backup) Member doesn't know. ? You didn't go to address? JY - no

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    4.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

      ? On what basis are you accusing MD re false address? JY - used address to file complaint and it bounced back JC puts it to JY that address is MD's residence, that JY is accusing MD of deception, was not a fake address JY - a condo has a (unit) number

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    5.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

      ? It's the condo complex address, why assume fake? JY - illegitimate, incomplete address, why not give unit # ? Maybe MD would have given unit # when you were in area? JY - service is public (Recall the BCHR Code only covers public services)

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    6.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

      ? It's a private residence JY - no public, gives example of friends waxing party, was private event, closed to public so could deny service... Member tells JY - no (legal) arguments ? Possible MD would give you the unit # when you were in area? JY - yes

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    7.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

      ? You were born a male and have male parts? JY - yes ? Aware of the requirements for waxing female genitals (testimony of the expert)? JY - yes, says is female, has had brazillians, JC should know that ? You have male parts but are requesting service for a brazillians? JY - yes

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    8.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

      ? As expert said, brazillians for females? JY talks about being defamed online as reason for asking for 500K, maybe more, mentions the @TPostMillennial JY says I wanted a brazillian, not a brozillain, not a dudezillion...(may have said manzillian too)

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    9.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

      ? Wax your male parts? JY - I'm intersex ? What does JY mean by that - what parts? JY - don't have to answer that, (finally) says both male and female parts ? Never said anything about female parts to respondents, only talked about male parts JY - no, where did I say that

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    10.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

      ? Never said anything about female parts to MD, told her male parts? JY - female parts (might be saying has female parts not told MD about female parts) ? you are saying you have a vulva? JY - not going to say

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       🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

      ? Not going to let you weasel out, do you have a vulva, ext female genitals? JY - not going to answer, wouldn't ask you ? Not about me, what parts you have, if you have a vulva is germane, you were requesting a brazillian, would have to take your clothing off, underwear off?

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        2.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

          JC continues ? Not like buying a hotdog, respondents would have to work on your genitals for a long time, can't refuse? Member says to JY, what were you asking MD to wax? JY - wanted a brazillian Member says what parts, scrotum, vulva? JY - the second, vulva

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        3.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

          JC continues: ? Your evidence is that you have a clitoris, labia, a vagina? JY - won't say ? Don't play games, do you know what a vulva is? JY - external skin around a vagina ? No, it is the external female genitals JY - not saying if has fully formed (vulva)

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        4.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

          ? Does JY have any medical information, an independent exam? Member stops exam line of questioning JY - genitals are deformed, embarrassed to tell publically, asks JC, how do we know that you have a fully formed penis & scrotum JC say he would be upfront

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        5.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 22 Jul 2019

          Member tells JY, no more using people in the room as examples. With that, time to break for me. JY's testimony will continue but be broken up so MD can testify and get to work. JY comments, "always interested in fairness" but wants it noted that has had to miss work too!

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        6.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          JC continues his cross examination of JY: ? False contention of female genitals? JY - are you calling me a liar ? Female genitals, true or false? JY - not false but refuses to elaborate, why is JC so interested in my genitals Member tells JY not to ask JC questions

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        7.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

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          JY - I'm intersex, have two sets, one thing works, other doesn't, won't say which JC says he will come back to this. JC now refers way back to Ext#1, JY's FB Marketplace convo with BH, respondent from @JCCFCanada case # 1 of these 3 consolidated cases👇https://twitter.com/goinglikeelsie/status/1148076161257201665?s=21 …

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           🕸goinglikeelsie @goinglikeelsie
          Okay, seems good, onward. Lawyer asks JY about how they represented their genitals in ext 1 FB convo. ? "Still have male parts" Answer: yes, no surgery. Will not say if intersex. Note for this thread, everyone is calling have both male & female genitals intersex
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        8.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          ? Described self as awesome trans girl, no SRS (surgery), having males parts, didn't say have female parts? JY - if would have said intersex, no one would know what it meant, would have denied service anyway

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        9.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          JY continues: Morgane Oger has claimed to be intersex & is not. If MO was denied service, would be significant complaint, MO is powerful. Religion vs the LGBT is dangerous, could be denied pizza service if permitted, respondents shouldn't be given leeway to refuse (to wax JY).

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        10.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          Member points out time constraints, that JY is now making (legal) arguments (should be giving testimony - facts) ? Goes to credibility, said trans, no surgery, scheduled for SRS? JY - yes ? Which surgery (procedure)? JY - irrelevant, doesn't even know what Dr. will do (yet)

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        11.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

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          ? Goes to credibility, string of fabrications (from JY)? JY - surgery not scheduled, just planned, trans is complicated, drugs, hormones, surgery JC now refers to Ext#9, again from 1st @JCCFCanada case👇https://twitter.com/goinglikeelsie/status/1148274699996024832?s=21 …

           🕸goinglikeelsie added,

           🕸goinglikeelsie @goinglikeelsie
          Member says that JY has said tampon - yes and tampon - no. Goes to credibility. Lawyer gives new exhibit, it is #9. Says it's a SS of convo where JY asked about girls having their pussies out in change room and seeing tampon strings.
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        12.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          JC says it is JY participating in a makeup forum (for teenage girls) talking about periods, tampons, being in a female change room JY - wasn't me, won't answer questions about it

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        13.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          I have written (should JY) "look for the string", "have a dick" and asking if women will have their "tits and pussy out" as quotes from this exhibit.

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        14.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          ? Has your name (I think Jonathan not Jessica) and (male) profile pic, true or false? JY - never sent, lots of fake profiles, fake profiles created by Lindsey Shepard, she's @JCCFCanada employee, has another little brag about getting her banned from Twitter

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        15.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          ? MD should be compelled by state to let you come to her private residence, compelled by state to wax your male genitals? JY - yes, it's a public service ? JY has said was burnt when getting arm wax in past? JY - was on my private FB, how did JC get

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        16.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          JY - wasn't burn, was allergic reaction, waxing place was dirty, blood and feces on the walls, has reported them to Fraser Health Authority ? Relevant to you that MD has no exp waxing male genitals? JY - no, says JC made false submissions, discusses waxing supplies needed

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        17.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          Member asks JC re relevance of JY's arm wax burn experience JC says example relevant, JY is litigious, if MD burnt JY through inexperience then JY would have filed complaint JY - you say I file complaints all day Member says yes, relevant, JY has filed complaints

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        18.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          JY - would talk to MD, ( not filed complaint) ? Possible you would have filed complaint? JY - talks about hitting JC's car, would talk it out with JC ? Compel MD to provide service with no exp, would then file complaint? Member says JY has answered, proposes lunch break

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        19.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          Discussion as MD needs to leave soon to go to work. Break into JY's testimony, allow MD to testify now so she can leave for work? JY comments that "always interested in fairness" but notes has had to miss work for hearings.

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        20.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          Member points out that she has let JY leave early (again, first @JCCFCanada case) and that this doesn't compromise the hearing. MD is sworn in, JC questions MD first, then JY will cross.

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        21.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          ? Opportunity to tell the Tribunal what happened, asks MD background? MD: - started home wax business in March 2018 - Mom with 3 kids - husband works & not at home during day - had brazillian wax ad on FB Marketplace - was promo, low price, promo finished, so marked sold (out)

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        22.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          ? Home alone with 3 kids, address provided was building address, not fake? MD - yes ? Would give client's unit # when in area? MD - yes Then JC asks about how MD came to txt JY? MC says that pregnant woman (Jessica) reached out, wasn't JY's pic, MD texted # provided, was JY's

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        23.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          GD adds that she was busy with her 4 yr old during text convo. ? Why no unit# given? MD - safety, always meets new clients outside of her building to vet - found txts with JY weird, booked for 4 but JY texted over & over, msg after msg - saw JY wasn't the original pregnant woman

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        24.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          - JY had seen her kids & family on her personal profile - felt unsafe, husband felt same way - was JY trans, didn't know how pregnant woman could be trans woman - issues with JY's deception ? Experienced and comfortable waxing male genitals? MD - no

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        25.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          MD - JY called MD's work, talked to her boss - JY told boss scared for MD to provide services (to young people) at work - sent msgs to boss - JY reported MD's FB profile (w nickname) as fake, was suspended, MD had to set up new profile JY interrupts to say not me who reported

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        26.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          MD - got Tribunal notice of complaint at work, very upset - got a msg from "Jessica" saying at your house, what's the unit #, I forgot - JY said on FB that MD has problem with LGBT - has blocked JY on SM, everything - went to the police, worried about her kids on way to school

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        27.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          - called JY in front of police, stop contact with MD - JY said MD doesn't know law in Canada, JY will take further action - then MD taken to Tribunal - shut down her business, talks about fear now having a stranger in home, being contacted at work, all of JY's msgs

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        28.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          ? Trained to wax male genitals MD - no Member asks question about MD's husband not being comfortable MD - no (strange) men in home when alone - safety issue - "everyone has the right to decide who to have in home"

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        29.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          Member asks MD, no problem with trans women (if it was the msgs/texts) MD - yes, weird msgs - thought trans woman meant JY has had surgery - felt sorry JY was denied service but JY kept texting even after she explained home alone with 4year old - 7 and 12 year old home too

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        30.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          - waxing room at home has door and lock - normally has just waxed friends & family - first time on FB Marketplace, had never had stranger in home - when "Jessica" said at her house, (and asked for unit #) it was a lie Member asks MD what her understanding of a trans woman is?

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        31.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 23 Jul 2019

          MD - understanding of trans woman is person who has had surgery, has become female, MD would be waxing female genitals

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