JY - refused for 16 waxes, why? Has to travel to XXX, why? Has to pay more money, why? Has impacted dignity, feeling of self worth, financial impact to travel Member asks no salons in Vancouver will do? JY - too expensive.
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JY? Outside the house, boy or girl? PY - boy because of the shaming JY? Throughout life have I had major abdominal cramping? PY - yes JY? Why is female gender id a threat to other women? PY - doesn't see how it should be, is it how someone looks, their body parts
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JY comments about "a deeply held bias against other women." PY - it has been emotional harassment and discrimination beyond comprehension. It's causing me to leave Canada after XX years. That's instead of taking my own life, I have threatened to.
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PY - will take whole family when I leave. Will exhume XXX and XXX and take them. "Where are the human rights?" Where are the rights against publication? Why do we have to go through all 16 cases? (note - may have meant separately) Has been sleepless for 48 hrs.
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PY - Dr. Is mad at them for taking care of JY. Has no strength, only from God and their religion. Their XXX gives them advice and strength. PY continues, mostly talking directly at Member: Stop all proceedings, bunch them together, too hard to attend so many.
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PY - JY is very sick, doesn't want the, to have a XXX. Is embarrassed in front of Tribunal, on social media including this ...refers to me. PY says their life is over and they are leaving the country. "No one will find my identity" JY? Says wait, the impact on my mental...
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PY - doesn't want to say personal details so hard to answer, JY has only slept 5 times in own bed, has been to ER 9 times...(time period is unclear) PY asks JY: "Are you a human being right now? No, you are not?" Sick JY is not JY! JY asks re mental impact again
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PY - doesn't want to reveal medical info but big impact JY? Asks PY what has been the impact of my (yes, mine!) tweets. PY - says I work for @JurisCameron, no evidence, just what JY shows them late at night, no time during the day, too many Dr. appts. Too much medical...
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JY? On scale of 1 to 10, rate impact of harassment - physical, emotional and psychological? PY - 11 JY begins a question about a stalking issue, being repeatedly stalked but stopped by the Member who asks how it is related to current JT complaint - it isn't, so no question.
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JY? How important has it been having the publication ban? PY - Very. should include their whole family, should include the family XXX. Note: there is a part about Photoshopping here that I am leaving out. PY - it is beyond scope, cried all night, called police
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PY then says they have called police and ambulance and they are on their way. No one bats an eye and things proceed. JY? How important is gender affirming care for me? PY - seems to say JY came out in July, no year mentioned. Says JY told everyone before them.
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PY is a a proud Parent. PY then misgenders JY several times: calls them a XXX of the LGBT, says directly to JY, you became the XXX you always wanted to be. No one corrects PY. JY? Affirmative gender care "validates" my gender id? PY - yes
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JY? Says with you, PY almost 24/7 (PY only has 1 private day a week). Lists places they go (burger chain, coffee chain...) asks PY to describe discrimination they have seen JY experience. PY - after very nice meeting with Town of XXX, went to XXX, this was prior to JY's XXX
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PY - they wouldn't serve JY any food, only a drink. Also discrimination at other location. PY then says - they are not racist - but race and religion have been used against JY - their position is two points: wanted to ask SGF (father of SG from last @JurisCameron case)...
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PY then breaks off to say that they think the Tribunal shouldn't have let SGF use a translator. Why did the Tribunal agree? Says their tax dollars paid for the translator, doesn't want their money going to the translator. Says of SGF, how long in Canada? SGF should know english.
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PY continues, "can't force religion and culture on us". Human rights should trump religion, every religion. Is translator there when SGF does daily things? Why do they get to "use religion to waste Tribunal time?"
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Member points out that they are giving PY lots of leeway but this is not relevant to current JT case. JY? More examples of in person discrimination? PY - XXX, JY wanted eyelashes for an important legal appearance - was denied. Eyelash woman on vacay, PY asks, yes, no problem
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JY? PY, you were sitting with me at the dining room table, told me what to say when requesting wax services, saw the backlash? PY - yes JY? Denial of service, discrimination and backlash are a form of neo nazism (more of a statement than a question) PY - why go there...
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Note: going to leave some stuff out here due to pub ban. JY? Neo Nazis use ideology - trying to make BC a neo nazi state. PY? They take over an area, like Hitler and make it their own. Canadians don't understand. PY then says they can't have a party for XXX because of XXX.
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JY? Impact on me? PY - enough already, I answered a thousand times JY? Describe my personality? PY - wonderful XXX, deeping love day by day, proud & applaud you, wonderful person & wonderful mission PY then misgenders JY : becoming the "XXX of the minority." No one corrects PY.
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Member stops the questions. Says JY & PY must be prepared. Member has given lots of leeway that they may not get tomorrow with
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Member says that arguments, opinions and non relevant information won't be allowed. Member has discretion and will exercise it strongly, especially in light of time constraints.
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Says if JY brings up,online harassment, they are opening a can of worms as @JurisCameron can address it, (other side, causes?) JY? Is there a max threshold for costs re improper conduct? Member says no threshold. JY gives a little laugh and says okay.
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PY doesn't want to be questioned by @JurisCameron JY wants to put two upcoming cases together. Both have no respondents are appearing. Rsspondent in one is out of business. JY says too much planning around travel - can't take the Skytrain (no pic replies please!)
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