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My feminism prioritises the material condition of women over the internal identification of men. I am a #mythicalbiologicalfemale.

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    1.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

      Lawyer says convo contradicts JY's testimony ( in my notes I have written admits penis) JY says not from their account, not them. Member says she will admit ext and decide what weight to give it. JY says there are many fake accounts. Now lawyer moves on, wants to admit ext#10.

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    2.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

      This is another SS of convo that discusses assisting 10 or 12 year old child with tampon. Lawyer says goes to credibility - doesn't know how to use tampon. Lawyer ask re JY's first Brazilian - Spring 2018. Cross over now JY gets to respond.

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    3.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

      JY makes statement questioning defendant on their views on gender fluid, non binary, etc. Is cut off by Member. JY testimony now over. Defence calls first witness AB, who will be expert witness re waxing. AB is sworn in. AB gives her background - 29 yrs experience.

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    4.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

      AB started out providing services from home - discusses risks involved. Now teaches at XXX(well known beauty school). AB discusses male wax clients. Must handle their genitals - shaft of penis,scrotum. Many men get erection - some embarrassed but substantial % ask for sex service

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    5.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

      When refused, some may be embarrassed but some get angry. AB has been called bitch, slut, c@nt. AB works (or has worked - sorry my pen ran out during this part so hard to read notes) at male only wax salon - says angry men very intimidating to staff at salon.

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    6.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

      As teacher at XXX, cannot/does not teach male waxing - some students under 18, some have religious objections to handling male genitals. There is no accredited program for male waxing - wax used for genitals different than arm/leg wax, male genitals different - skin is very thin

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    7.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

      Could cause injury if not done properly. Also notes that there is no longer requirement for accreditation in BC and never has been for waxing male genitals. Now JY questions AB but I do not have notes due to pen running out. Next, lawyer questions defendant. Will call her BH.

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    8.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

      Note - missed notes for her husband. There was some testimony about harassment - JY's friends not leaving BH alone. How negatively affected BH. BH is a Sikh woman. Lawyer asks BH ?s, answers include: - works exclusively from home in small room -small children present in home

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    9.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

      - BH's FB market place ad says that service is at her home - JY contacted for full body and Brazilian wax - BH saw JY's display pic and thought JY was man - only waxes women so said no - JY said they are a woman, then said trans, no surgery - BH has never waxed a penis/scrotum

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    10.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

      -BH certified in 2007 (there is no cert for male wax) - not comfortable with male genitals, even uncomfortable talking about them - alone at home with kids -member of Sikh religion, very religious - no hate for JY - has been asked by males before, always said no, not even facial

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       🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

      -doesn't care re transgender, only type of genitals Now Member asks BH ?s And her answers are - in Sikh religion, women stay with one man for life - intimate only with that one man - intimate touching only with husband Now it is JY's turn to ask BH questions.

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        2.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

          JY asks why religion should trump thier rights. JY asks if BH would provide service to post op trans woman? BH doesn't seem to understand what post op TW means, says would wax vagina, not male genitals. JY asks why would BH do haircuts for post op trans women.

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        3.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

          BH says that they don't have a penis on their head. (outburst of laughter in gallery) JY asks BH why older Sikhs disagree with what BH has said re waxing males. Member stops JY and says they can't ask BH to explain the beliefs of other people.

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        4.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

          JY asks BH why they chose this profession - to support family JY asks why not comfortable waxing all women - just not comfortable with male genitals JY says BH rejected them based on pic - BH says she thought pic was male so asked JY re parts

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        5.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

          BH says that JY said woman with male parts so BH rejected. Now JY asks hypotheticals re waxing non binary, waxing Caitlin Jenner, why BH's rights trump JY's - stopped by Member. JY asks why BH said she was going home (out of country) for six months

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        6.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

          BH says she wanted to get JY off her back and that JY's friends wouldn't stop texting her. Now Member asks BH about going away. BH says she was trying to end conversation. In BH's husband testimony, he discussed them being on a holiday and feeling harassed by JY and JY's friends

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        7.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

          So said going away so JY would leave them alone. Next JY tries to raise privacy law, says BH violated PIPPA in email (to Tribuanal?) that wrongly included other defendants. Member again shuts this down. JY asks BH why she is scared about periods.

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        8.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

          BH says hygiene issue re bleeding, also increased sensitivity when women on period. And that concludes JY's cross of BH. There is no time for closing arguments so Member says will consolidate all three cases.

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        9.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

          Expert testimony will be used in next two case, JY's testimony will be used (IMO this is Member trying to ensure all the non relevant stuff JY brought up is left out). Member suggests closing statements for all three done at same time - all defendants can attend.

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        10.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

          All agree - hearing is over! Will start new thread for second hearing that took place the next day on Friday, July 5th. This is another Sikh lady. She goes to client's home. JY had requested arm/leg waxing. May try to do today but may be tomorrow. Hope this was informative.

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        11.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

          But please keep in mind that these are only my notes and recollections. This is obviously not a transcript. And please do not identify or tweet anything that may identify JY. Thanks for reading.

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        12.  🕸goinglikeelsie‏ @goinglikeelsie 8 Jul 2019

          @threadreaderapp unroll please

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