It's more like the opposite. Heavy music concerts (metal, raves, etc.) go for sensory overload, meditation (actual good meditation like vipassanā or maraṇasati) goes for something approaching sensory deprivation
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It's not the opposite. It's nondual. Both can get you to the same mind space.
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Big disagree
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This is self evident if you practice martial arts sparring. The founder of judo wrote about this, and so did Josh Waitzkin in Art of Learning. He found peace and clarity during an earthquake. The quake aligned his mind with the Tao.
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Sounds like you're just conflating "the flow" terminology with entirely different practices. There are reasons why people climb mountains and do aikido and meditate and learn new instruments/languages. This is like saying broccoli and carrots have the same nutritional benefits
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Besides, athletes trying to verbalize/externalize their experience always comes off as highly reductive/somewhat misinformed, e.g. Bruce Lee & Joe Rogan.
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If you want to assert some vaguery like "playing the violin/learning muai thai/having sex all bring you 'to the same mind space'" then fine, so be it. We still can't just claim that headbanging at a show and paying attention to your circulatory system are "the same"
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There are different phenomenological state spaces that different types of meditation gets you into. It’s not just on practice or one state.https://twitter.com/mimeticvalue/status/996189170942070784?s=21 …
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Mimetïc Value @MimeticValueReplying to @linkolawave @Caine60724874Meditation is a practice of entering different phenomenological state spaces. You get gullible when you are constantly in the same state space and can't prepare for black swan shifts in perception. So it depends on how you meditate. pic.twitter.com/To2QCMNc9a1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes -
Oh, I completely agree. I still take issue with saying meditating and some highly-sensorial entertainment hobby are just two sides of the same coin.
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Before practice, a tree is a tree, a mountain is a mountain. During practice, a tree is no long a tree, a mountain is no longer a mountain. After attainment, a
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one of my favorite Koans.
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