Question for Sam. What in better or worse is worse? Precisely? And how is this worse a fact rather than a fundamental moral claim? @SamHarrisOrg
It's also funny because Epicurus didn't say that quote in the same context as what fedoras think it means.
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I'm still waiting for a persuasive or even logically coherent theistic response to the problem of evil or the Euthyphro dilemma. Theists have had over 2000 years and they just can't answer either without special pleading or logical fallacies or outright woo.
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I’m still waiting for you to stop pretending that they haven’t been answered time and time again by philosophers and then dismissing their arguments without justification
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What's a thesitic answer to the problem of evil or the Euthyphro Dilemma that is logically coherent, isn't special pleading and doesn't resort or baked woo? I've read Plantinga, WLC & CS Lewis, there's nothing there that even remotely qualifies. Give me an argument.
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You haven’t demonstrated how plantinga’s or WLC’s arguments are fallacious. You just asserted it and then when I called you out for not supporting your claim you defended yourself by saying that you were not making an argument
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Lay out what you think the best response to both questions (or either) is and I'll respond to it.
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Euthyphro to start. It is a false dilemma fallacy. The third option is that God doesn’t arbitrarily command us to do things nor does he refer to law that exists distinctly from him. It is that he himself is the standard of goodness so he has the authority establish a moral law
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Thus his commandments are not arbitrary
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Really Commandments are not arbitrary? How about 8/9C? It goes "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour". In this context there r 4 use cases a) lying for a neighbor, b) lying against neighbor, c) lying for a non-neighbor, d) lying against non-neighbor and several
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