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    1. Simon Phipps‏Verified account @webmink Feb 21
      Replying to @giacomotesio @asadotzler and

      Sorry, I don't understand that.

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    2. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Feb 21
      Replying to @webmink @asadotzler and

      Oh, well, it's simple. A #FreeSoftware community is proud of any contributor. I can still find my name in piece of software I've contributed 14 years ago! To a #FreeSoftware community there is no reason to remove a copyright statement while preserving the code.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Simon Phipps‏Verified account @webmink Feb 21
      Replying to @giacomotesio @asadotzler and

      I still don't understand your argument. Or is this once again your pain from a bad experience being generalised into a universal issue?

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    4. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Feb 21
      Replying to @webmink @asadotzler and

      Again... who knows? But still, as I wrote in the article, a few weeks ago I would have agreed with you, using #OpenSource and #FreeSoftware as synonym. Now I think I've realized that #Stallman was right and that they are different beasts. One can choose. But they are not #equal!

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    5. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Feb 21
      Replying to @giacomotesio @webmink and

      To me, my experience is just "a cautionary tale", for younger #developers pondering to contribute to an #OpenSource project thinking that it's the same thing of a #FreeSoftware. They can learn from #OpenSource. They can help #OpenSource. And earn a living. Just not believe in it.

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    6. Enio Gemmo‏ @eniogemmo Feb 22
      Replying to @giacomotesio @webmink and

      It is your conviction, although it is contradicted by the world; does not change for you, so it is useless to continue the discussion.OpenSource have propietary parts? My God... The end

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    7. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Feb 22
      Replying to @eniogemmo @webmink and

      Please do not misrepresent my position. I'm saying that #OpenSource is different from #FreeSoftware, in #Culture, #Values and priorities. That this difference explains several facts that cannot be explained with the mainstream #wisdom. And that #developers should be aware of it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Simon Phipps‏Verified account @webmink Feb 22
      Replying to @giacomotesio @eniogemmo and

      That is a mistaken & divisive generalisation of your personal experience that diminishes the values & contributions of countless people who have changed things for the better in the face of seemingly overwhelming opposition from proprietary vendors. #BetterUnited

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    9. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Feb 22
      Replying to @webmink @eniogemmo and

      This is a pretty #poor vision of #life. Who is #different from me is not my #enemy. She's just different from me. As for generalizations of my observations (that are not only related to my issue)... Do you know what we have learnt from minute anomalies in the orbits of Mercury?

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    10. Simon Phipps‏Verified account @webmink Feb 22
      Replying to @giacomotesio @eniogemmo and

      I did not mention "enemy". I said your continued broadcast of your mistaken position is harmful to the rest of us trying to make the world a better place. BTW your hashtag plugin makes things worse too as it breaks translations. #BetterUnited #EndOf

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      Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Feb 24
      Replying to @webmink @eniogemmo and

      @carlopiana It has been pointed out to me that I didn't share this document which actually describe well what I mean: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html … Actually, I assumed you knew it well. It explains that #OpenSource and #FreeSoftware are different. One is _defined_ by #hackers' #ethics

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        2. Carlo Piana (Kappa)‏ @carlopiana Feb 24
          Replying to @giacomotesio @webmink and

          Actually, I know that document by heart. My point is different. Operatively they are 2 faces of the same coin. Again, for my efforts to make patents in standards licensed foss-compatible, making that distinction is detrimental. That very argument is used to divide and conquer.

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        3. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Feb 24
          Replying to @carlopiana @webmink and

          @carlopiana I know and appreciate your work. Really! But you forget #programmers and users in your reasoning. The #ambiguity in the mainstream language fools them both. It reduces the #freedom that the licenses grant. Concretely!

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        4. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Feb 24
          Replying to @giacomotesio @carlopiana and

          What happens to your #freedom to #modify if it takes hours to understand how to build the code? And days to build! Such projects are not concretely #FreeSoftware. Even when they use a #GPL license. I agree they are still #OpenSource though.

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        5. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Feb 24
          Replying to @giacomotesio @carlopiana and

          And this is also relevant to #users, or the #freedom to #study would be pointless. These are concrete evidences of a #cultural difference which should not divide, but not even fool anyone!

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        6. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Feb 24
          Replying to @giacomotesio @carlopiana and

          Stating that there is no difference sound like a will to preserve the #ambiguity, just to get more #programming #minions for free! But for free, is not for freedom! And I don't think #developers deserve this. We build what you defend! This is what I mean by ethics' orthogonality.

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