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    Gab.com 🕊‏Verified account @getongab Oct 13

    Gab.com 🕊 Retweeted Lolicon Defense Task Force

    18 USC 1466A is pretty clear and I think 99% of people would agree with us on that. This isn’t new, we’ve always banned illegal content. If you want to enable the sexualization/fetishization of children you can do it somewhere else.https://twitter.com/Lolicon_News/status/1051207165380321281 …

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    Lolicon Defense Task Force @Lolicon_News
    Gab has taken an ant-loli stance because it is "gross." Liberal or conservative, both sides will put feelings over facts. http://bit.ly/2OVSZld 
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      2. Gab.com 🕊‏Verified account @getongab Oct 13

        Imagine defending this garbage and the demons who post/create it. No thank you! GTFO.pic.twitter.com/s95Yav2zXm

        4 replies 16 retweets 58 likes
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      3. Gab.com 🕊‏Verified account @getongab Oct 13

        Has ZERO to do with feelings and everything to do with legality and our user guidelines, both of which are very clear on this topic.

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      2. Lolicon Defense Task Force‏ @Lolicon_News Oct 13
        Replying to @getongab

        At last check, according to then actual experts on this topic at the @CBLDF, it isn't legal or illegal - it is in a legal grey area. We are sorry if drawings make you soft and cry at night but your feelings should never trump "free speech."

        2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      3. Wimpiethe3‏ @wimpiethe3 Oct 13
        Replying to @Lolicon_News @getongab @CBLDF

        Legal grey area means that it's uncertain. So you can argue either way, I would say that's not always a free speech issue for that reason.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Lolicon Defense Task Force‏ @Lolicon_News Oct 13
        Replying to @wimpiethe3 @getongab @CBLDF

        Yes, uncertain - it seems to mainly depend on if the person being targeted has real CP, has had a history of being charged with sexual crimes and if the state or feds actually want to bother. Even incest hentai have been punished in the US.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Wimpiethe3‏ @wimpiethe3 Oct 13
        Replying to @Lolicon_News @getongab @CBLDF

        Be that as it may, calling it free speech is premature. It might be. But as long as it's not clear companies will err on the side of caution.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Lolicon Defense Task Force‏ @Lolicon_News Oct 13
        Replying to @wimpiethe3 @getongab @CBLDF

        Not all companies. There are several manga publishers that distribute such material. The main reason they get away with it is because they do not advertise a characters age - which may move it outside of a legal grey area. Loli by itself is not illegal unless it is "obscene".

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Wimpiethe3‏ @wimpiethe3 Oct 13
        Replying to @Lolicon_News @getongab @CBLDF

        Not all is not an argument. It does not make it legal. Also if the obscene part is usually part of loli, as a term, it won't fly with most. That said you could call it differently and make damn sure it leaves out those things.

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      8. Lolicon Defense Task Force‏ @Lolicon_News Oct 13
        Replying to @wimpiethe3 @getongab @CBLDF

        It is an argument. If there are companies that are distributing it while being a legally registered company and nobody is stopping them and their lawyers aren't warning them - that should tell you that it is, at best, unenforced, and legally grey but legally ignored at worse.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. Wimpiethe3‏ @wimpiethe3 Oct 13
        Replying to @Lolicon_News @getongab @CBLDF

        Which does not make it a good argument for any company to allow it. When you can remove that doubt, then that's an argument. Or let me rephrase it, then it's no longer a weak argument.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Ḿ̴̴̷̷̛̤̪̥͑͆̑̽̕͘͘a̗͉̗͈ͬ͒́ͫ̕r̵̭͎̞͕͘͡͏k̭̪͆̈́̃̓ͧ͏̧̛̕͘͠‏ @HitMyip Oct 13
        Replying to @getongab

        cc @fluffyfe Die mögen lolis nicht :c

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      3. fe‏ @fluffyfe Oct 13
        Replying to @HitMyip @getongab

        UFF @r3kt666

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      1. Wimpiethe3‏ @wimpiethe3 Oct 13
        Replying to @getongab

        When I googled 'what is loli?' Even google displayed an advert; images of child abuse are illegal. So in the algorithms of even google it's connected to child abuse/pedophile content.

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      2. Miles Rivaliant‏ @RivaliantdA Oct 13
        Replying to @getongab

        Oh look. Another place loses its balls

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      3. J.Y Lewis GAB: BlazingSeoul‏ @blasing_c Oct 13
        Replying to @RivaliantdA @getongab

        Loli stuff is legal gray area and is up to discretion of private companies. Sorry overt depictions of sexualized "12 but not reallly 12 yr olds" being banned is offensive to you.

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      4. Miles Rivaliant‏ @RivaliantdA Oct 13
        Replying to @blasing_c @getongab

        A company toating "free speech" as a selling point of not censoring thing trying to hide blatant hypocrisy by citing a law that was over turned as unconstitutional as them deleting illegal content. No I dont see how that's offence my artistic sensibilities.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. J.Y Lewis GAB: BlazingSeoul‏ @blasing_c Oct 13
        Replying to @RivaliantdA @getongab

        So you like loli art. They said they would delete obviously sexual depictions of children. That is a bit in the eye of the beholder. Fucking get off gab if you think it is so terrible. Simple.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Miles Rivaliant‏ @RivaliantdA Oct 13
        Replying to @blasing_c @getongab

        I never got on Gab. But my consideration for opening one has been wiped out by their blatant disrespect. Just dont lie. You dont want lolicon/shotacon works on the site. Fine. But dont try to claim moral authority by claiming its illegal content becuase of personal objections

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. J.Y Lewis GAB: BlazingSeoul‏ @blasing_c Oct 13
        Replying to @RivaliantdA @getongab

        It is illegal in many states. Therefore Gab is still within reasonable right to make this claim. Sorry I just read all the most recent cases. Also some conflicting rulings exist.

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      8. Miles Rivaliant‏ @RivaliantdA Oct 13
        Replying to @blasing_c @getongab

        you suggesting that any internet company are criminally liable for what someone in another state does using their service? Unless the state in which they operate In has specially made it illegal. How can another state have jurisdiction over their servers if itnot a federal crime?

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      9. J.Y Lewis GAB: BlazingSeoul‏ @blasing_c Oct 13
        Replying to @RivaliantdA @getongab

        No, but they are within the right to do so and I would hardly blame them.

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