Disclaimer: I'm not super familiar with @generativist's work and the intended referents of 'control', 'interactions', and 'optimization' in the quoted tweet above. I'm mostly intentionally inappropriately reading it as a response to our prior work (below).
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A. I find this infrastructural perspective on industry isomorphism a useful addition to my thinking on these issues.[2] D. Some users effectively exert control (purposive influence) despite limited "controls". Effectively, the controls include activity folded into words & acts.
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C. Activity in this folded-interface, the particulars in the explaining & exhorting and the actions explained & exhorted, is contested by different (sub)groups of users and challenged by the company actors. The company actors police "illegitimate" behavior—however arbitrary.
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D. Scale itself is a business decision. "Maybe scale doesn’t scale?"https://twitter.com/emilybell/status/1215364912417034241 …
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These tweets from
@generativist help me ponder again "control" here: Constrained company actors write code to create certain[3] controls. Users exploit/extend the control capacity of what they've been given. Company actors, then, uncertainly act to control a folded-interface.[4]1 reply 0 retweets 2 likesShow this thread -
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@jennaburrell, Zoe Kahn, &@annejonas: When Users Control the Algorithms: Values Expressed in Practices on Twitter https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3359240 …pic.twitter.com/gjXCXYg9np
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2. Like ecosystem externalities that influence a long-tail of technical data engineering decisions (and the afforded business decisions) within companies?
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3. "certain controls": 'certain' as (tentatively/temporarily thought of as or to be) defined & definite.
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Daniel Griffin Retweeted Daniel Griffin
4. Folded-interface should perhaps be phrased the "frothy-folded-interface".https://twitter.com/danielsgriffin/status/1121645154207559680 …
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Daniel Griffin @danielsgriffinTo borrow some language from another article about the Motherboard characterization of technical coulds, what strikes *me* about the technical coulds article is how it seems to take for granted the claims from Twitter that traditional moderation is "nuanced" rather than "frothy". pic.twitter.com/ZVFEuw4FiuShow this thread1 reply 0 retweets 1 likeShow this thread -
Daniel Griffin Retweeted Daniel Griffin
Addendum: I can't mention "control" here without recalling this sobering line from Eslami et al.'s "“I always assumed that I wasn’t really that close to [her]”: Reasoning about invisible algorithms in the news feed":https://twitter.com/danielsgriffin/status/900760065015111682 …
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Oh wow, great thread! Gonna digest this more in the morning
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