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    1.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 22 May 2019
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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫 Retweeted Marco Rogers

      1/ Riffing off this: In general, you can learn through interaction or observation (although the former obv has elements of the latter in it). When you challenge (and assuming sincerity), you select for an interaction.https://twitter.com/polotek/status/1131256161129287680 …

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      Marco Rogers @polotek
      I have had this exchange numerous times. It goes something like this. Them: I disagree. | I've had a different experience. Me: I don't care. | What's your point? Them: Geez, I was just trying to learn. Why are you attacking me?!
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    2.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 22 May 2019
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      2/ Ignoring the disregard of the social effects (maybe the person just wanted to express something and be heard), this selection narrows the trajectory of the conversation. So again, even given good faith, the person issuing the challenge often is at odds with their own intents.

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    3.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 22 May 2019
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      3/ Crudely, learning socially requires a mixture of either, listening and trying to understand / empathize or trying to test your own ideas, which often does require someone else, since it's very easy to fool yourself.

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      4/ If the other person didn't ask for the challenge, you're probably in the wrong mode. (Although, *sometimes* being a friend/coworker is knowing when to push.) And if you always challenge, you've introduced some serious biases to the set of messages you're going to receive.

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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 22 May 2019
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      5/ (And yes, the mixture of communication strategies -- transactional versus receptive/social -- does seem to be gendered.)

      11:30 AM - 22 May 2019
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        1. jonny‏ @the_dismal_tide 22 May 2019
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          Oooo both of these threads give me a lot to think about. I do think my default interaction style has often been over the years disagreement/challenge and it is very helpful to be more conscious and aware of that and the role that plays in diff contexts and the alternatives...

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        1. jonny‏ @the_dismal_tide 22 May 2019
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          Buuuuuuut I’m still not sure I agree with her framing/diagnosis. We’ll see....

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