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    1.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 29 Mar 2019
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      1/ I'm sure the STS folks can say this better but, Single-author papers or projects aren't interdisciplinary. They can't be.

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    2. Artem Kaznatcheev‏ @kaznatcheev 29 Mar 2019
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      I want to disagree. Consider my recent paper: https://twitter.com/kaznatcheev/status/1102973539634892800 … Would you call this not interdisciplinary? Why? I think interdisciplinary work is very hard, and we often fall short of it. Regardless of the composition of our team. But I want to imagine it is achievable.

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      Artem Kaznatcheev @kaznatcheev
      Local peaks can't always be found quickly! Hard landscapes are subject to ultimate constraint on evolution: computation. Can hide winding paths. http://www.genetics.org/content/early/2019/03/04/genetics.119.302000 … My path to this paper has been very long: ~7 years in the making. It finally found its peak in @GeneticsGSA. pic.twitter.com/LiYdL9elc8
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    3.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 29 Mar 2019
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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫 Retweeted  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫

      So, I'm not going to defend my position too strongly because it's not that far from a hot take, but,https://twitter.com/generativist/status/1111777710102052864 …

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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫 @generativist
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      Yea, I think that's part of it... At least my perception of interdisciplinary *has been* "I'm an expert in this and that." But, I think it's better thought of as "what I study lies partly here and partly there." A bit hand-wavy, but...hey, this is a hot take ;)
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    4.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 29 Mar 2019
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      So, I absolutely *would* call your work interdisciplinary. But, I mostly wish there was a different word. Like, if you're able to do it well as a single author, I think it says something about the disciplinary boundaries that demands emphasis.

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    5. Artem Kaznatcheev‏ @kaznatcheev 29 Mar 2019
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      If you force interdisciplinary work to be by def. multi-author then you might trap us in Conway's law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law … With people contributing separate 'parts' to paper & never integrating it into 1 coherent whole & one mind. I wouldn't even call that interdisciplinary.

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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 29 Mar 2019
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      Oh yea, I agree with that completely. But, I also think the word "interdisciplinary" is a manifestation OF Conways law, which may be part of what I'm trying to work out.

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        2.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 29 Mar 2019
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          Like, a lot of the disciplinary boundaries seem to be getting fuzzier because they were communication structures that we're out-growing. So, I think you're right, me saying "cannot be" interdisciplinary isn't the problem.

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        3.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 29 Mar 2019
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          Instead, it's kinda that calling it interdisciplinary before enumerating the disciplines as some quasi-intersection almost...reproduces procrustean boundaries in the process?

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        2. Artem Kaznatcheev‏ @kaznatcheev 29 Mar 2019
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          People have tried to introduce other words, like transdisciplinary and nondisciplinary, etc. Are you trying to deflate the word interdisiplinary? And argue that it is not something that we should aspire to? In that case, I would agree (for a proper definition of the word).

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        3.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 29 Mar 2019
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          (Are you someone who deletes your posts on a rotating schedule? Because I wanted to set a reminder with a link.)

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        1. Paul Harland‏ @PabloRedux 30 Mar 2019
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          Interesting discussion... @ruthmalan

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