Well now you're just completely bypassing the point. As ridiculous as "those people" are, you're basically just openly warmongering at this point, despite your tribe (8% "progressive activists") being one of the most puritanical and the worst coalition-builders.
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Replying to @EliSennesh @generativist
I can only write so fast! I'm trying to clarify!
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The "white tribe" is constructed, inscribed in material and symbolic reality, reified, and then sublimated. When examined, it makes no sense. But inherent to reactionary politics is that tribal identity. I don't want to reify it, I want to examine and dissassemble it.
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Replying to @MichaelTBacon @generativist
Yes, but what you're instead doing is stoking tribal conflict between your Progressive Activist Tribe and the White Red Tribe. This tends to have negative repercussions for those of us in other tribes entirely. (I'm a card-carrying DSA-er, but that's not a *tribe*, see?)
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Replying to @EliSennesh @generativist
What is a "tribe" anyway? If we demonstrate that whiteness is a constantly shifting and yet frustratingly durable social construction, how is that any more "tribal" than DSA? The affective association to an org like DSA changes cognition on an individual level.
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Replying to @MichaelTBacon @generativist
>What is a "tribe" anyway? "All politics is identity politics" is your metaphysics, not mine. As I'm concerned, joining DSA didn't change me into a passive-income bourgeois. You're still dodging the point: the way you are operating is making society more tribalistic, not less.
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Replying to @EliSennesh @generativist
I operate under the conclusion that one cannot make society less tribalistic, one can only make the tribes more kind and inclusive, less grounded in racial myth, and centered around things other than reactionary identities. And this isn't lightly considered.
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Replying to @MichaelTBacon @generativist
If your operating assumption is true, all we have for a future is carnage and slaughter and the laughter of thirsting gods.
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Replying to @EliSennesh @generativist
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Trying to keep from forking the convo TOO much . . . I read in this argument that "tribal" thinking leads to violence while "modern" (or if you prefer, rational) thinking leads us to peace. I think that's a huge error. I call it a conceit.https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelTBacon/status/1110689393701015552 …
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Michael T. Bacon @MichaelTBaconReplying to @EliSennesh @generativistTreating this as an analytic vs Continental split is really the wrong framework, from what I can tell. STS and ANT don't emerge from either tradition, they emerge from empirical social science and history. Inasmuch as this becomes an ontology . . . 1/2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @MichaelTBacon @generativist
You read wrongly and presume a hell of a lot that I didn't say. 280 character limits suck.
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I think this topic exists at a collision zone between different belief systems that makes it especially hard to discuss on this medium.https://twitter.com/generativist/status/1110651567198199808 …
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