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    1. Joaquín Machado‏ @JoacoMachado 26 Mar 2019
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      I never mentioned identity politics.

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    2.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 26 Mar 2019
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      Ah, my mistake, you did not. What were you referring to by, "[t]his is what comes from separating people by race, accentuating the separation, and then pitting the different groups against each other."

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    3. Joaquín Machado‏ @JoacoMachado 26 Mar 2019
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      Exactly what it says: People who create division and enmity between sunsets of society for whichever reason they claim to justify it. This problem is so old that Dante put this kind of people in the 8th circle of hell: the sowers of scandal and schism.

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    4. Joaquín Machado‏ @JoacoMachado 26 Mar 2019
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      I can't help but comment: it's telling that you immediately associate those people to Identity politics.

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    5.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 26 Mar 2019
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      Which people?

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    6. Joaquín Machado‏ @JoacoMachado 26 Mar 2019
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      The people who sow discord. The people who seek to make one group responsible for the misfortune of individuals in another group. The people who sell the idea that others can and should be responsible for your life, it's shortcomings, or it's property.

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    7. Joaquín Machado‏ @JoacoMachado 26 Mar 2019
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      The people who teach grievance and resentment as an appropriate political stance. The people who would rather see oscillating exploitation between groups instead of cooperation.

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    8.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 26 Mar 2019
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      I'm still not following here. Are you're saying that it's telling that "I immediately associate" "people who teach grievance and resentment" with "Identity politics"?

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    9. Joaquín Machado‏ @JoacoMachado 26 Mar 2019
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      Yes. Those two things aren't necessarily related in theory, and yet there's a reason they are associated on your mind. You could say that it's because it's associated in the minds of the critics of identity politics, but then there's a reason for that as well.

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    10. Joaquín Machado‏ @JoacoMachado 26 Mar 2019
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      You could dismiss your critics as dullards, but then you are engaging in echo chamber thinking. My contention is that there is a valid criticism hiding in the message you are dismissing. It's not a "gotcha" argument. It's my viewpoint from my experience in Venezuela.

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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 26 Mar 2019
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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫 Retweeted  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫

      Unless I'm missing something — other than the usage of fool which selected the audience I wanted to engage with — the message you suggest I am dismissing and the message I am making are the same message.https://twitter.com/generativist/status/1110618331768197120 …

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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫 @generativist
      2/ Like, I have no idea what the "correct level" of discussion is and I don't think anyone does. But, when you mentally set it to [any level], you're probably going to end up working against your desired outcomes.
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        2. Joaquín Machado‏ @JoacoMachado 26 Mar 2019
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          Did you mean tool? The point you are trying to make is muddled. The message I'm talking about is that creating resentment and enmity on the basis of an identity trait is bound to trigger an equal and opposite reaction along the same axis, so it shouldn't surprise you.

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        3.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 26 Mar 2019
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          No I mean "fool" because I said "foolish" in the very first message in the thread you responded to.

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