Yes, but what you're instead doing is stoking tribal conflict between your Progressive Activist Tribe and the White Red Tribe. This tends to have negative repercussions for those of us in other tribes entirely. (I'm a card-carrying DSA-er, but that's not a *tribe*, see?)
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Replying to @EliSennesh @generativist
What is a "tribe" anyway? If we demonstrate that whiteness is a constantly shifting and yet frustratingly durable social construction, how is that any more "tribal" than DSA? The affective association to an org like DSA changes cognition on an individual level.
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Replying to @MichaelTBacon @generativist
>What is a "tribe" anyway? "All politics is identity politics" is your metaphysics, not mine. As I'm concerned, joining DSA didn't change me into a passive-income bourgeois. You're still dodging the point: the way you are operating is making society more tribalistic, not less.
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Replying to @EliSennesh @generativist
I operate under the conclusion that one cannot make society less tribalistic, one can only make the tribes more kind and inclusive, less grounded in racial myth, and centered around things other than reactionary identities. And this isn't lightly considered.
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Replying to @MichaelTBacon @generativist
If your operating assumption is true, all we have for a future is carnage and slaughter and the laughter of thirsting gods.
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Replying to @EliSennesh
Why do you say that?
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Replying to @generativist
Because that's what happens when your fundamental vision of society is a collection of dichotomous tribes fighting each-other for resources and political power. It's an intrinsically fascist worldview, and it gets people killed.
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Replying to @EliSennesh
I think the perception of other groups can only go away when there is one single culture which, to me, is at best a terrifying dystopia, but mostly I think is just a fantasy.
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Replying to @generativist @EliSennesh
Like, think you have to be able to see broad identities to trace and perceive gross injustices. But, I also think it's extremely tricky to talk about because people ascribe lots of different meanings to "all politics is identity politics" or even "tribes."
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Replying to @generativist @EliSennesh
So my whole OP was more of a "when a concern transcends groups, be sure to note that sufficiently. Don't ignore identity when one group is clearly more affected; but, also don't ignore the transcendent argument, because coalitions matter, too."
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And, the fewer inter-group gross disparities, the lower the probability of the "carnage and slaughter."
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Replying to @generativist
There has been carnage and slaughter when there were few to no material differences between the groups at all, as in Nazi Germany. A particularly nasty example, yes, but salient due to neo-Nazis being one of today's more actively tribalist tribes.
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