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    1.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 25 Mar 2019
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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫 Retweeted Mara Averick

      1/ So, this is kinda the consensus answer to OP.https://twitter.com/dataandme/status/1110251098747609088 …

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      Mara Averick @dataandme
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      Yeah, I've seen this convo before, and I think Python is much broader (that's the Q, right? Sorry, my plane just landed), so more fragmented, apples and oranges, etc.
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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫 Retweeted Keiran Thompson

      2/ Even within one broad sub-community (e.g., data viz), it's my intuition that there's a lot more tangled and competing interests (e.g., production stability v research).https://twitter.com/drenerbas/status/1110223019417452544 …

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      Keiran Thompson @drenerbas
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      When you try to contribute. There are absurd things in matplotlib and sklearn, but the main devs are quite defensive. So the project ossifies.
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    3.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 25 Mar 2019
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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫 Retweeted Hannah

      3/ Which I think often manifests in ways perceived as antagonistic when people are not careful. (@story645 gives a good example of how to be careful).https://twitter.com/story645/status/1110249967870984193 …

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      Hannah @story645
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      Trying not to come across as defensive, but in like every other mpl dev call there's a discussion on getting rid of [thing everyone agrees is absurd] and then someone mentions [larger than you'd think] user base that critically relies on it. It's a tightrope for bigger projects.
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    4.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 25 Mar 2019
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      4/ Like, even back in the day, I remember inter-group rivalries between the Rails/MERB people that didn't go away when they merged.

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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 25 Mar 2019
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      5/ Like, even the way you structure a question can echo and reinflame prior technical disagreements that lead to animosity. And, critically, newer members of a community don't know what is associated with who and why! They just perceive, "wow, what a dickish response."

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        2.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 25 Mar 2019
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          5/ This is all a hot take on my part, so take it with a grain of salt. But, all of these hypotheses are testable! And, I'm sure they've even been tested already.

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        3.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 25 Mar 2019
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          P.S. When I'm done defending in a few weeks, I'll look through the lit. cc: @devonzuegel who probably knows the relevant lit already.

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        4.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 25 Mar 2019
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          P.P.S. @Aelkus and @Brett_Fujioka because this maybe a cool way to interrogate general sub-community fuckery.

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