1/ Ivy's league schools are privilege factories for many, many reasons. This is just an obvious and egregious one.https://twitter.com/AP/status/1105494854761660416 …
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2/ My hometown has a magazine. I see these articles every year and they piss me off. (This one is June 2006). They're celebratory: "look how great our kids are doing!" But...pic.twitter.com/WRO26Qkbc3
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3/ Students from Christopher Columbus typically underperform. That school and the half-dozen or so elementary schools that feed it... ...they're a lot poorer.
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4/ The 4 out of the top 10 students statistic? This is the narrowest region of the funnel for a school that has a typical graduating class size of around 1000 people. Meanwhile, I have lots of friends who went to tiny private schools where not getting into an Ivy was scandalous.
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5/ Like yea, fuck the people who explicitly bribed their kids into a position of privilege... ...but the boundary is way less crisp than all that.
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Replying to @generativist
This is big concern when we're doing admissions at Oxford. Figuring out how to properly account for privilege that private schools buy one (called public schools here in the UK; just to confuse me). Thankfully CS isn't big targeted for biggest privilege factories, but still...
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Replying to @kaznatcheev
How do you try to do so? I've really only thought about it in passing, but it seems like a tightly-knotted problem.
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Replying to @generativist
It extremely tightly-knotted. There is only so much that can be done by time of college admissions (you should see how skewed our applicant pool is). But I aim to evaluate people on teachability & how much they'll benefit from Ox style tutorial system vs. existing knowledge base.
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Replying to @kaznatcheev @generativist
There are also some formal steps that are taken before interviews. But I'm not sure how much of the details I can talk about (I also don't know most of them, since my role in the process is relatively minor). It is a really difficult task.
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Replying to @kaznatcheev
Yea. Also one I (again, as a hot take) assume is really critical in interrupting a lot of meritocracy pretenses. Growing up, everyone at my school "knew" that getting in means your smarter-better-faster-stronger and that you worked harder than everyone else.
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It's one of the first places you internalize one and only one aspect of social reality... ...and a very deceptive one at that.
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