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    1.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 7 Mar 2019
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      I agree with that completely...except I think that articulates only half of the problem. The other part is a profit model that sells human attention. The supply is finite but elastic enough that you can design for a maladaptive increase.

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      And the easiest way to do that isn't even obviously manipulative: it's just privileging amplification over attenuation. Even limited to a network of alters like facebook, the system tends towards waves of seizures.

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    3.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 7 Mar 2019
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      All the biggest networks play the balancing act well, where they increase the attentional costs in a way compensated for the dopamine hits. I don't see how you beat that with a *free* network.

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    4.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 7 Mar 2019
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      Even if you had graph portability, you have to retain the users using your service. Metcalfe = Network x DAU. If you increase inhibitory power, you can't sell as many ads and, as a consequence, resources for competition.

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    5.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 7 Mar 2019
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      And, if it's a pay-for-usage service, you have the graph bootstrapping problems plus the wallet barrier of entry. Like, in that ecosystem, I think challenging them is like waiting for the moment all the oxygen molecules happen to bounce into the corner of the room.

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    6.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 7 Mar 2019
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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫 Retweeted Sar Haribhakti

      (Also, this part:)https://twitter.com/sarthakgh/status/1103720764966985728 …

       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫 added,

      Sar Haribhakti @sarthakgh
      Let’s stop pretending that wholesale transition from ads to subs or any paid biz model for mass products that are utilities now is not one of the most exclusionary designs ever.
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    7. myk is teetering‏ @mykola 7 Mar 2019
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      100%. But these corporations have commodified human attention, generating it through leaky and destructive externalities that they ignore. Honestly the world would be better without the ad model, even if less content gets to poor people. Honestly: this content sucks anyway.

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    8.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 7 Mar 2019
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      I believe the middle part while simultaneously believing the exact opposite.

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    9.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 7 Mar 2019
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      But in more serious terms, I think if you want to address the harms done by facebook, twitter, et al. the only way to do so practically is to great peripheral systems that eventually alter the whole online ecology.

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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 7 Mar 2019
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      I'm not sure how to plan for that. But I do have cool niché ideas that I would like to explore, and I think that's what I should do.

      10:46 AM - 7 Mar 2019
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