This is exactly the problem that's been motivating a lot of my recent "spare time" explorations. If we're all arguing over projections of our beliefs — views of reality — it would be really nice to reflexively see everyone's basis. Otherwise, we lose track of what's asserted.https://twitter.com/kareem_carr/status/1088137191614763008 …
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Like, epistemology really is -- in partly -- what I was rant-purging about yesterday:https://twitter.com/generativist/status/1087883778406506496 …
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💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops 💫 @generativist1/ Disagreements that form because people misinterpret their interlocutor's positions are common enough that it's cliché: "talking past each other". But, are there any frameworks or ontologies for classifying the contextual mistakes (maybe, in#rhetoric)?Show this thread1 reply 0 retweets 0 likesShow this thread -
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So is logic. And rhetoric -- especially being able to identify specific mixtures of logos, pathos, and ethos.https://twitter.com/kareem_carr/status/1087836528209022978 …
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🔥Kareem Carr 🔥 @kareem_carrThe most revolutionary thing you could do in 2019 is emulate Greek philosophers. Study logic and rhetoric. Listen attentively to views with which you disagree. Produce arguments supported by sound reasoning and evidence. Discuss ideas in a way that educates more than it inflames.1 reply 0 retweets 1 likeShow this thread -
But, instead, I feel like my education -- prior to grad school and, at times, there too -- taught science as almost...desperate scientism.
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A great question -- and, please share your answers, too! I'm kinda muddling through. Right now I'm reading The Methodology of Scientific Research Programmes. I've seen Lakatos cited so many times but never read his stuff. Always thought, "Popper and Kuhn are good enough."
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I think I'd like to see higher level maps though. Especially ones that are pragmatic in the sense that they help you quickly perceive what and *why* someone is arguing.
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...because in a really weird way, I think that's what we all do on twitter via stereotyping -- reject ideas and perspectives by implicitly (and noisily!) imputing someone's epistemological (and moral) positions. I want better and more careful decompositions!
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