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    1.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 2 Jan 2019
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      TFW you have tremendous respect for politicial scientists and politicial science — when you’re impressed by how much the field knows and discovers — but simultaneously think everyone, including yourself, is tragically confused because the system is too large to pin down.

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    2.  🌎 🌵the  🚀 🌌cosmist  💣 ✊insurrection  🏴 🚩‏ @yungneocon 2 Jan 2019
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      Is that, in principle, any different from math or physics given how those have esoteric sub disciplines incomprehensible even to other experts within the discipline but outside the sub field?

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    3.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 2 Jan 2019
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      I think its more tragic because ppl assume politics is easy / common sense. So they can attach to any credentialed expert willing to make strong statements they agree with. Confirmation seeking seems harder in something like physics. Although @AstroKatie’s FAQs suggest im wrong.

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    4.  🌎 🌵the  🚀 🌌cosmist  💣 ✊insurrection  🏴 🚩‏ @yungneocon 2 Jan 2019
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      THAT I def agree with--because sociology, poli sci, the humanities, etc., are largely written in general language (as opposed to mathematical symbols, like physics & econ) people think that they aren't allowed to have their own jargon, methods, styles, etc.

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    5.  🌎 🌵the  🚀 🌌cosmist  💣 ✊insurrection  🏴 🚩‏ @yungneocon 2 Jan 2019
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      So we enter this uncanny valley where people demand that things like social science & humanities be relevant to everyday life & written in plain language (which no one makes of physics, or of, say, sports!) but then get mad when it disconfirms their hypotheses.

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    6.  🌎 🌵the  🚀 🌌cosmist  💣 ✊insurrection  🏴 🚩‏ @yungneocon 2 Jan 2019
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      So, people either criticize it as "proving stuff that's common sense" or being "total bullshit" because it does the opposite, and has its own methodologies and styles. It's really a sort of petty way that people popularly interact with the Soc Scis & Humanities.

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    7.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 2 Jan 2019
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      Yea. And I think it’s hard to do good #scicomm in that space because you’re always crowded out by the youtube army (eg jbp).

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    8.  🌎 🌵the  🚀 🌌cosmist  💣 ✊insurrection  🏴 🚩‏ @yungneocon 2 Jan 2019
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      On the supply side, one has the fact that elites, mass media, etc don't call upon socs, anthros, humanists, geographers, as much as they do econs, psychs & poli scis (in descending order), and, on the demand side, one has the confirmation bias issue.

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    9.  🌎 🌵the  🚀 🌌cosmist  💣 ✊insurrection  🏴 🚩‏ @yungneocon 2 Jan 2019
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      YouTubers confirm people's prior biases and intuitions, but veil them as making them smart, or even edgy & renegade. Meanwhile, good social science should do almost the exact opposite--disconfirm said ideas, but in an understandable way.

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       💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 2 Jan 2019
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      Yea. And economists — the ones most called on — also have their ideas routinely implemented, so they get to create the system the predicted (or explain away why it didnt materialize.) everyone else is more observational. (Hot take)

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        2. Karl Heinz Häsliprinz‏ @KarlHeinzHasliP 2 Jan 2019
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          Recommendation: An Engine, Not a Camera How Financial Models Shape Marketshttps://mitpress.mit.edu/books/engine-not-camera …

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        3.  💥 (wannabe) Ƀreaker of (the Bad) Loops  💫‏ @generativist 2 Jan 2019
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          Thanks! Related (and alluded to earlier) https://www.amazon.com/Economists-Make-Markets-Performativity-Economics/dp/0691138494 …

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        2.  🌎 🌵the  🚀 🌌cosmist  💣 ✊insurrection  🏴 🚩‏ @yungneocon 2 Jan 2019
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          What's interesting, though, is the gulf between what economists say publicly and what they say internally, and between what scholarly economics has to say about policy, and what policy economics ends up getting implemented. It's actually quite stark.

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        3.  🌎 🌵the  🚀 🌌cosmist  💣 ✊insurrection  🏴 🚩‏ @yungneocon 2 Jan 2019
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          But yeah, economists have the distinct advantage of being able to proffer 'analysis' on a system they helped design, lol, and then use that analysis to justify and further implement that system. https://uberty.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/MacKenzie-An-Engine-Not-a-Camera.pdf … http://www.sps.ed.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/36082/CrisisRevised.pdf … https://wtf.tw/ref/mackenzie.pdf …

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