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    Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

    So, a friend of mine last night sent me some tweets from an (anonymous) account using an analysis related to Benford’s “law”. The analysis concludes that Biden’s first-digit vote totals are “extremely anomalous compared to Trump’s.pic.twitter.com/RgSqeEGJD8

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      2. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        I’m going to explain in this thread why this analysis is ignorant junk at best. (For anyone who doesn't know me & cares about credentials, I'm a lawprof/former econ prof with a PhD in economics from MIT & have published many stats-forward articles https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=nYi57uEAAAAJ&hl=en …)

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      3. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        When Benford’s “law” applies, we expect a distribution of numbers to exhibit more values that begin with a small leading digit than a larger one.

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      4. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        The reason is that, eg, to get to 20 you have to first go through 10, 11, …, 19, so there are ten numbers that begin with a “1” before any that being with a “2”. Under some conditions this means you expect to see a first-digit distribution like this one:pic.twitter.com/Yntw3vpI6h

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      5. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        Here’s the Wikipedia discussion of Benford’s “law” for those who are interested. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford%27s_law …

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      6. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        The anonymous @statsguyphd did an initial analysis of precinct-level data. Someone else picked up their ball and has posted data and code at https://github.com/cjph8914/2020_benfords … (see @statsguyphd’s pinned tweet image below)pic.twitter.com/tpmdZ1AuSy

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      7. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        I went to the github link, and here's the results of the applied to Chicago precinct-level data. WOW!!!! EXTREMELY ANOMALOUS!!!!! Biden/Harris have way too few precincts with leading-digit 1 and Trump/Pence has too *many*! Anomaly! Right??? Right? right? Um: Nope.pic.twitter.com/gaqDRht76x

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      8. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        I downloaded the Chicago csv file provided on the github link (Chi was first on the list) & with a little work found that of 2k+ precincts, only 9 had at least 1000 votes. Only 2 of those 9 precincts have at least 1000 *Biden* votes & *none* has at least 1000 Trump votes.

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      9. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        Why does that matter? Three reasons. First, it means the only way a candidate can have a leading “1” is to have precinct-level votes of 10-19 or 100-199. Second, Biden's avg precinct-level total in the data set is about 379. Third, Trump's avg precinct-level total is 78.

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      10. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        Put it all together & you see Trump has a lot more leading-digit “1” values than Benford’s “law” predicts because Trump's precinct-level vote totals are *low*. Chi voters don't dig Trump; he has many precinct totals in 1/10-19/100s. Chi voters like Biden; his totals are > 200.

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      11. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        As with so much else, the ANOMALY!!! analysis boils down to suggesting that Democrats' popularity with Democratic voters is somehow surprising. Extremely anomalous! Maybe even *fraudulent*. Step off.

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      12. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        Benford’s “law” ain't a law; that's why I've been using quotes. The distribution in question provides a good fit under conditions that apply sometimes but not others, eg, when, as here, data have a fixed max & are distributed away from 1/10-19/100-199. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford%27s_law …pic.twitter.com/FXZyjidROU

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      13. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        Once a trained statistician-or even a kind of thoughtful person-sees this is precinct-level data & thinks about the size of precincts & the candidates' relative popularity, it should take that person about 14 seconds to realize Benford’s “law” analysis is garbage-in/garbage-out.

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      14. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        Still don’t believe me? Ok, let's do a simple analysis of the precinct-level vote *totals*. There are 30 precincts with a leading-digit “1” and WOW THAT’S EVEN FEWER THAN FOR BIDEN ALONE!!!!! ZOMG THE FRAUD EXTENDS TO THE PRECINCT-LEVEL **TOTAL** NUMBERS OF VOTES!!!! Nah.

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      15. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        Stop with the caps and !. You need to calm down / You’re being too loud.

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      16. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        This @statsguyphd's analysis isn’t evidence of anything even slightly anomalous. In the data, anyway. What it is evidence of is - to be charitable - deeply irresponsible sloppiness. The anonymous person behind the account should retract and apologize to those they duped.

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      17. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        If you still think there’s something here, I challenge you to go get precinct-level data from heavily pro-Trump areas with a similar distribution of total precinct-level votes, and redo this analysis. See what you get.

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      18. Jonah Gelbach‏ @gelbach Nov 6

        Ok, I have spent enough time on this crap. /fin

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