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Game designer at @romerogamesltd , @imirt_ie board member and mentor at @TabletopMentor. Designing videogames by day and boardgames by night. He/Him

Galway, Ireland
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    1. BEZ || KS on 31st August for "A game about wee..."‏ @stuffByBez Jun 15

      Looking at a game on BGG. 50% of the forum posts are in the 'rules' category. Do you think that suggests an unclear rulebook? Or are there too many other factors for that to be meaningful?

      7 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    2. Manuel Correia‏ @gamesbymanuel Jun 15
      Replying to @stuffByBez

      Unclear rulebook would be my first guess.

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    3. BEZ || KS on 31st August for "A game about wee..."‏ @stuffByBez Jun 15
      Replying to @gamesbymanuel

      I mean, for this game we found the rules a tiny bit unclear. I was actually on BGG to find some answers. But I wonder if this is a truism. I actually wonder if you could datamine BGG to get a vague approximation of rulebook quality.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Núria Casellas ( 🏡)‏ @nucaica Jun 15
      Replying to @stuffByBez @gamesbymanuel

      The last two games I've played I had to resort to a BGG rules forum search because 1) there were some sentences in cards open to interpretation, and 2) I could not find the answer in the rulebook when just looking for a particular problem.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Núria Casellas ( 🏡)‏ @nucaica Jun 15
      Replying to @nucaica @stuffByBez @gamesbymanuel

      To me, case 1 happens when as players we think "outside of the box" and this is may be harder to see/predict, and case 2 happens when the rulebook is not organized to allow a quick search for answers to specific sections. Writing rulebooks is really really hard, an art.

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    6. Manuel Correia‏ @gamesbymanuel Jun 15
      Replying to @nucaica @stuffByBez

      Agreed. If the rules/components were clear from the start, there would be no need to ask rules questions on BGG.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. BEZ || KS on 31st August for "A game about wee..."‏ @stuffByBez Jun 15
      Replying to @gamesbymanuel @nucaica

      But of course nothing can be perfect. And nothing can be perfectly clear. Additionally I would argue that in the case of some games (e.g. Jungle Speed, Yogi), clarifying every possible edge case in the box would make it a far worse game.

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    8. BEZ || KS on 31st August for "A game about wee..."‏ @stuffByBez Jun 15
      Replying to @stuffByBez @gamesbymanuel @nucaica

      There are a number of extra rules you'll have to engineer if you want to run a world championship of Jungle Speed. Same if you want to run a competitive game of Yogi Guru with the wildcards.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Manuel Correia‏ @gamesbymanuel Jun 15
      Replying to @stuffByBez @nucaica

      I've seen some games do these "catch-alls" for rules questions. For example, in the vehicle skirmish game Gaslands they have the Rule of Carnage: "(...) if the rules are unclear, choose whichever option results in the most carnage for all concerned. "

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    10. BEZ || KS on 31st August for "A game about wee..."‏ @stuffByBez Jun 15
      Replying to @gamesbymanuel @nucaica

      That sort of thing will certainly still need some additional work if being played in a competitive way. But maybe those sorts of things are good at setting the expectations and tone of the game.

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      Manuel Correia‏ @gamesbymanuel Jun 15
      Replying to @stuffByBez @nucaica

      Yes, I don't think this game is meant for high end competitive play and I agree that in some cases, watertight rules make the game seem a lot more complicated than it is.

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