Also, when were DAPL or Occupy or BLM or anti-war or anti-deportation or any other protests channeled into organizing a legit left challenge/alternative to Dems at the local level? AOC etc was the best that came of that, and that’s all STILL inside the party.
I did. The bottom line is, they're innocently (I hope) faulty framing.
Voting 3rd party in 2000 and 2016 at least didn't give the Dems or Reps a larger, undeserved mandate. It's a shame more of us didn't have the courage of our convictions. 
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Neither the Dems nor the GOP experienced any weakening of their duopoly, no loss of mandate, after both 2000 and 2016. What you are arguing is precisely what the Greens and their boosters argued before 2000 and 2016. Why should anyone expect that THIS time will be different?
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Fred - I think you misunderstand my position. Which is: Both Trump and Biden are utter political evil, and would result in a continuation of the human rights violations they both stand for. As such, we are definitely best off boosting
#greenparty & refusing a mandate to both.
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