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    1. grover  💙‏ @fuzzyblumonster 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @gorskon

      You do realize that scientists and physicians testified on the science and treatment in this case, right? The jury didn’t just imagine this stuff. And hey, nice disrespect for juries. They’re a cornerstone of democracy and if not perfect, the best avenue for justice we have.

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    2. Delilah Helton‏ @delilahheltonaz 10 Aug 2018
      Replying to @fuzzyblumonster @gorskon

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMzjJjuxQI …

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    4. Delilah Helton‏ @delilahheltonaz 11 Aug 2018

      Cigarrettes are poision. Roundup is poision. https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/how-toxic-is-the-worlds-most-popular-herbicide-roundup-30308 …

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    6. Delilah Helton‏ @delilahheltonaz 11 Aug 2018

      then why don't you just take a nice big gulp of Roundup and let us know how that works out for you

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    8. Delilah Helton‏ @delilahheltonaz 13 Aug 2018

      either case, Johnson did not sue because he consumed Roundup, he sued because Monsanto 'failed to warn Johnson and other consumers about the risks posed by its weed-killing products.' A jury agreed.

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    9. Sandy Robb‏ @wallybongo 13 Aug 2018
      Replying to @delilahheltonaz @fuzzyblumonster @gorskon

      Failure to warn is simply a different flavor of a product liability claim. The other two are design defect and manufacturing defect. Failure to warn is the most appropriate for this type of exposure case.

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    10. Marc “Wash your hands, don't spit!” Draco FBPE‏ @marcdraco63 13 Aug 2018
      Replying to @wallybongo @delilahheltonaz and

      You can only fail to warn IF you know of a risk. I can only assume that you haven’t followed the evidence. It’s pretty much all in the public domain now. Try studying it and divorce yourself from the hype and cherry picked newsbites.

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      grover  💙‏ @fuzzyblumonster 13 Aug 2018
      Replying to @marcdraco63 @wallybongo and

      1. If you follow the evidence 2. It’s in the public domain 1a) Jurors received the best (one assumes) evidence Monsanto could possibly give them. 2a) They’re not allowed to do their own research. So they followed the best evidence and arrived at that conclusion.

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        2. Marc “Wash your hands, don't spit!” Draco FBPE‏ @marcdraco63 13 Aug 2018
          Replying to @fuzzyblumonster @wallybongo and

          I have seen much of the evidence presented and a lot of it is bad science. No one can avoid the hate aimed at Monsanto. That’s clear from reading the comments I see here and Facebook. This is Erin Brockovich all over on a bigger scale.

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        3. grover  💙‏ @fuzzyblumonster 13 Aug 2018
          Replying to @marcdraco63 @wallybongo and

          Monsanto created some of that itself with its overreaching seed monopoly and IP litigation against small farmers. It has tossed the whole idea of basic PR to the wind for years. Regardless, the jurors were screens for bias. Are you saying it’s counsel wasn’t competent?

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        2. Sandy Robb‏ @wallybongo 13 Aug 2018

          Please, untag me from this useless discussion. Not you, Mr. Draco. Block will handle you.

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        2. Maie Lynn Bee, PhD‏ @maie_lynn 14 Aug 2018
          Replying to @fuzzyblumonster @marcdraco63 and

          Someone who isn't trained in scientific methods are more likely to a) undervalue good science showing no association (unsexy), and b) overvalue bad science showing an association (sexy). Science isn't up for debate and shouldn't be decided in the courtroom.

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        3. Sartorius Medicus‏ @SartoriusMD 14 Aug 2018
          Replying to @maie_lynn @fuzzyblumonster and

          Scientific statements are not mere opinions, but facts. It's a crucial error of our media landscape to suggest that every topic can be narrowed down to a "pros and cons" discussion where every opinion is weighed equally. This may be true for politics, but never for science.

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        2. Dr. Person Fakename‏ @bkillip 14 Aug 2018
          Replying to @fuzzyblumonster @marcdraco63 and

          You don’t just get to stand up and present whatever testimony you want. There are threshold requirements (gen acceptance, testable/tested, etc) that have to be met first, and I’m assuming that happened here in pretrial motions. Beyond that, the jury is the finder of fact.

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        3. Marc “Wash your hands, don't spit!” Draco FBPE‏ @marcdraco63 14 Aug 2018
          Replying to @bkillip @fuzzyblumonster and

          Is it really? Tell that to the dozens of wrongly convicted people (including several who lost their lives) after being sent down for crimes it's later shown they did not commit. This "expert" for example, responsbile for one guy doing 17 years. http://truthinjustice.org/deaver.htm 

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        1. Carl (fan parody)‏ @EtTuCarl 14 Aug 2018
          Replying to @fuzzyblumonster @marcdraco63 and

          Well then, we should just use juries of random idiots off the street to tell us everything.

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        2. Ben  🍺the Wheat Raiser's 🍞 Edge‏ @edgeben 14 Aug 2018
          Replying to @fuzzyblumonster @marcdraco63 and

          No, they followed the evidence they agreed with or were convinced was true. Again, this is deciding scientific truths not on the evidence but on which legal team was more convincing. Not the way scientific issues should be decided.

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        3. Marc “Wash your hands, don't spit!” Draco FBPE‏ @marcdraco63 14 Aug 2018
          Replying to @edgeben @fuzzyblumonster and

          Several people have made the point about a "jury trial" here but from what I've seen on the idiot box, some cases are can't be tried if the defendant has been unfairly exposed in the press. On that measure alone, Monsanto (and glyphosate by extension) should never have been tried

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