Back in court this morning live tweeting from my #spycops hearing before the IPT.
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They also point out that MK lied to get authorisations "all along the way", and as such it would never have been possible to advance MK as a witness of truth. Which is odd, as they seek to do just that in this case, by relying on the interview MK gave to the HASC.
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Sir Stephen House (who knows nothing about the case) notes MK sometimes explains time spent with me as a "chance" event, and sometimes included political intelligence to what were entirely social and/or romantic events. Again, odd, they seem to think this is a defence.
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MK is authorised in 2006 to attend a deeply personal event -
@JustLisa2010's father's funeral. Somehow police lawyers seem to think MK's claim he delivered "sympathy cards" means his handlers were duped into letting him attend. Frankly this is insensitive nonsense from Perry QC.Näytä tämä ketju -
Another point is that
#spycops Lynn Watson and Marco Jacobs knew about MKs relationships. Perry says that the fact they didn't raise concerns shows "They knew it was wrong and decided not to draw attention to it". Again, he thinks that is a point in the defence the police.Näytä tämä ketju -
I'm finding Perry's case difficult to follow. I wonder if judges are too. It is undisputed MK had a long term relationship with
@JustLisa2010 SOCA make it clear measures to supervise MK were wholly inadequate, the police fully accept that. Maybe there's just no defence?#spycopsNäytä tämä ketju -
The Judge is asking about where the evidence for all his inferences are. It is clear that even the police legal team have not seen much evidence for the claims they are making, even though we know that those documents did once exist, they are now "lost".
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All records for the deployment from July 2003 -Feb 2004 have been "lost". Senior officer day books also seem to have disappeared. We know boxes of
#spycops documents relating to Kennedy were unlawfully destroyed: https://policeconduct.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Op_Hibiscus_Final_report_for_publication.pdf …Näytä tämä ketju -
Perry is paying a lot of attention to the fact that MK was pulled out of his
#spycops role in late 2009. That is SIX YEARS after he first started having sex with women he was spying on. Shutting the door after the horse had bolted does not really cover it.Näytä tämä ketju -
The Judge also points out that MK went back to
@JustLisa2010 during the period when he was being extracted. Did EN31 know that he was? Perry - "As far as I am concerned, no" Again, there seems to be no actual evidence for why he thinks that.Näytä tämä ketju -
Now we are looking at Article 14: Was there sexist discrimination in what the police did? Perry seems to think that this is about "consensual sexual relationships" which is disgusting and insulting defence of serving police officers committing sexual assault.
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Thankfully Judges having none of it. It doesn't really matter how you break it down, whether you define it as the totality of the operations or just the NPOIU, the fact is there were many many male
#spycops who had sex and only really evidence of one female officer who did.Näytä tämä ketju -
Perry can't answer that. He instead claims a "more fundamental point" is that there are stereotypical assumptions being made about male and female sexuality. Judge: I am not interested in assumptions, I am interested in evidence, and the evidence here is very clear.
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Police appeal to case law (Monica v UPP) where the CPS refuse to prosecute Jim Boyling for rape. Interesting double think, they say that
#spycops sexual relationships fundamentally undermined autonomy and consent, but also rely on the idea that they were not a criminal offence.Näytä tämä ketju -
Just in case you missed the point, in amongst Perry's legal arguments, let's say it loud again: WE DID NOT CONSENT
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In summary the
@metpoliceuk case seems to be that sexist discrimination by#spycops is not important and the Tribunal should decline to make a ruling on. Perry makes it clear that if the Tribunal does decide to make a ruling, he has no justification to offer for why it took placeNäytä tämä ketju -
Perry now addressing concepts of "Necessary and Proportionate" - He thinks the key point is that there are various "legitimate purposes" for deploying these powers set out under RIPA. Of course these rules changed in 2013 because of the horrifying revelations about
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Perry says the question is: Is there a law regulating
#spycops? Does it provide adequate information about the circumstances in which public authorities are likely to use these powers? and does it indicate the scope of the discretion they are given to do that?Näytä tämä ketju -
He says all of these materials did exist and were "readily accessible" and the law provided indication as to the conditions in which public authorities might deploy
#spcyops, as well as regulations on granting and renewal of authorisations.Näytä tämä ketju
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