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    Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 28

    Facebook actually put *fake red dots* to try and make you think you have messages even if you don't, so you agree to their tracking more hastily. Read full complaint against Facebook: https://noyb.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/complaint-facebook.pdf … - with tricks like that, sorry Facebook, you deserve to be hit hard.pic.twitter.com/inThjgPoov

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      1. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 28

        From a professional point of view I'm super impressed they're doing this - I mean it's really clever. Just maybe the designers and engineers who did it could look themselves in the mirror a bit, and quit and use those elite skills for something that actually benefits their users?

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      1. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 29

        Great to see so many people seeing this thread! While you're here, you might like to help out @NOYBeu (NGO who made the ace complaints about bigtech to the regulators) by joining them as a supporter:https://noyb.eu/support 

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      2. Karim Daghari‏ @karimdaghari May 29
        Replying to @frabcus @levelsio

        Here’s something else: when they detect that your cursor is going to close the windows/tab they’ll flash a notification.

        6 replies 18 retweets 73 likes
      3. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 29
        Replying to @karimdaghari @levelsio

        You're kidding? Wow. Would love to see a video of that!

        2 replies 1 retweet 25 likes
      4. Karim Daghari‏ @karimdaghari May 29
        Replying to @frabcus @levelsio

        I too thought I was crazy but no, thing is it’s a microseconds flash ... enough to trigger a response. Some next-level psychology.

        2 replies 4 retweets 50 likes
      5. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 29
        Replying to @karimdaghari @levelsio

        We really need to sort the law out on this and sort it out hard before Augmented Reality gets good...

        3 replies 3 retweets 40 likes
      6. Wojtek‏ @pugson May 30
        Replying to @frabcus @kdaghari3 @levelsio

        It's too late. Facebook already bought Oculus so expect some subliminal ads flashing in VR headsets soon.

        0 replies 3 retweets 11 likes
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      2. Scott Flear‏ @ScottFlear May 30
        Replying to @frabcus @randfish

        Don’t see the problem with this. They are a business. It’s not a gov body or something else. It’s just a tactic to increase opt ins. I see no issue with this tbh.

        2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 30
        Replying to @ScottFlear @randfish

        Fair enough, but I wouldn't copy them in your own business as what they're doing is now illegal.

        1 reply 1 retweet 16 likes
      4. Scott Flear‏ @ScottFlear May 30
        Replying to @frabcus @randfish

        Is it actually illegal to add in things to make you engage more with their service? You still have to accept the terms and it’s up to you if you read it? It’s deceiving but I’m not sure how it’s classed as illegal.

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      5. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 31
        Replying to @ScottFlear @randfish

        Yes. Under GDPR, a service is not allowed to require Consent to personal data processing in order to give access to the service. The core service must only process data under other legal bases (e.g. Contract, Legitimate interests).

        3 replies 3 retweets 25 likes
      6. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 31
        Replying to @frabcus @ScottFlear @randfish

        If Consent is asked for it must be for only *additional* and *optional* features which need that Consent to operate.

        0 replies 3 retweets 13 likes
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      2. Robert E. Guinness‏ @RobGuinness May 29
        Replying to @frabcus @mikko

        Not to be nitpicky, but what is a "fake red dot"? They certainly look like real red dots to me...

        3 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      3. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 29
        Replying to @RobGuinness @mikko

        It doesn't have a real number in it because you have actual messages - they're fake because after agreeing, the user had no red dots at all, as she had no messages.

        1 reply 2 retweets 14 likes
      4. Robert E. Guinness‏ @RobGuinness May 29
        Replying to @frabcus @mikko

        Yeah, I get it, but I would call them "deceptive red dots" or "misleading red dots". "Fake red dot" just sounds wrong to me metaphysically speaking. Maybe it's just me though.

        2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      5. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 29
        Replying to @RobGuinness @mikko

        They certainly are deceptive and misleading too!

        1 reply 0 retweets 18 likes
      6. Ajnabi Al-Finlandi ⚽️ 🇧🇪‏ @ajnabifinlandi May 29
        Replying to @frabcus @RobGuinness @mikko

        But there is a message from Facebook, so how is it deceptive or fake? Are there rules how the red dots should appear?

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Mark‏ @MrRussell1 May 28
        Replying to @frabcus

        I had this on instagram too when looking deeper into terms etc, sneaky!

        2 replies 4 retweets 21 likes
      3. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 28
        Replying to @MrRussell1

        noyb complained about them too: https://noyb.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/complaint-instagram.pdf … but didn't mention anything like the red dots!

        0 replies 3 retweets 8 likes
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      2. GDPR Data Protection Inspector‏ @GM2DBW May 29
        Replying to @frabcus @maxschrems

        Francis, Max forget your Facebook scam what really matters is spamming FB users with tons of unknown personalities from distant continents Do you know how to remove "People you may know" tool from FB ? What makes #FB to suggest me, living in #EU I should know ppl from India

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      3. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 29
        Replying to @GM2DBW @maxschrems

        There might be an addon which does it, e.g. see some suggested in this threadhttps://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/5kfeph/remove_those_annoying_people_you_may_know/ …

        2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      4. GDPR Data Protection Inspector‏ @GM2DBW May 29
        Replying to @frabcus @maxschrems

        did you mean https://web.facebook.com/friends/requests/?fcref=swpsa …

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      5. Francis Irving‏ @frabcus May 29
        Replying to @GM2DBW @maxschrems

        I can't see that URL as I don't have Facebook any more! But no, I mean a browser plugin. Definitely worth installing browser plugins to customise your Facebook experience. I used to love turning off the news feed. Made the site boring it was ace. Like removing catnip.

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      6. GDPR Data Protection Inspector‏ @GM2DBW May 29
        Replying to @frabcus @maxschrems

        excellent Intelligent #FB should be built of plugin blocks, selectable by a user. It makes no sense to install plugins to remove unwanted blocks. More plugins, more mess. The easiest way to quit your "Facebook experience" is to accept unknown ppl suggested by #FB as your friends

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