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Author, fanwriter, trash bandit, queer geek feminist, dork. Jack of all pronouns, mxtress of none. Yells about hockey. Aussie in the US.

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    Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 2 May 2018

    This question is equal parts serious and facetious, but I can't stop thinking about it: where do vegans who are fully opposed to cattle and dairy farming think domesticated cows will GO without those industries? Do they think they'll just... return to nature, minus the methane?

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      2. Joseph Brassey‏ @JosephBrassey 2 May 2018
        Replying to @fozmeadows

        I know PETA basically plans to kill all domesticated animals since they consider them abominations.

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      3. Mike Brooks‏ @MikeBrooks668 3 May 2018
        Replying to @JosephBrassey @fozmeadows

        PETA are trolls though, they’re just about making money off controversy.

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      2. Ahimsa (अहिंसा)‏ @ahimsakerp 3 May 2018
        Replying to @fozmeadows

        I can't answer for all vegans. But the implication in your objection- that millions of dairy cows would be put down--is not as terrible when you consider actual living conditions. Plus it happens once, as opposed to generations of what for humans we'd call fate worse then death.

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      3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 3 May 2018
        Replying to @ahimsakerp

        I wasn't implying they'd be put down; I specifically asked if they'd be returned to the wild. You're honestly arguing that eradicating an entire species of animal for the sake of human convenience is preferable to just treating them better?

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      2. Tom G. Wolf‏ @LupineBookClub 3 May 2018
        Replying to @fozmeadows

        I think long-term the idea is that they wouldn't be actively bred anymore -- which of course resolves the issue over a longer period, because they don't live forever. If we abolished meat and dairy tomorrow though...no idea

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      3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 3 May 2018
        Replying to @LupineBookClub

        Yeah, I get the no more breeding thing. But then... where do the cows actually GO? Are they going to let an entire species die out by seeing them all neutered, or are they going to try and have a domesticated species go wild again?

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      1. Rhiannon “Insectigoth” Rasmussen‏ @charibdys 3 May 2018
        Replying to @fozmeadows

        nope. death to domesticated animals is the end goal

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      1. Ágústa Loftsdóttir‏ @AgustaKrunkar 3 May 2018
        Replying to @fozmeadows

        I had one person argue that they didn't approve of the way domestic animals were treated, so they refused to participate. No particular endgame - just a Gandhi inspired peaceful protest. I felt they robbed themselves of their biggest weapon as discerning consumers.

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      1. Dr Sharon Krossa  💜 😎 🧡 (the real kind: PhD)‏ @skrossa 3 May 2018
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        I'm guessing wander the streets, like in India. That'll be fun.

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      2. Dr. Liz Bourke ( 🏳️‍🌈 all year)‏ @hawkwing_lb 3 May 2018
        Replying to @fozmeadows

        Considering that there's a bunch of research on diet to reduce cattle methane... I mean. Irish dairy practices aren't that bad, so I don't really understand the vegan extreme.

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      3. Paul Anthony Shortt‏ @PAShortt 3 May 2018
        Replying to @hawkwing_lb @fozmeadows

        I do sometimes wonder if they realise that the most likely result if everyone suddenly stopped consuming animal products is that those animals would be slaughtered. It's expensive to keep them with no return on the investment.

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