- and they still think Camestros is Toby, therefore They Are Justified. The fact that none of that has ANYTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH MY QUEERNESS and wouldn't do even if Camestros WAS Toby genuinely doesn't compute to them. If I call them homophobes, they think I'm being Mean.
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This is something individual Puppies seem to struggle with: the idea that the political aspect of their movement, whether Sad or Rabid, is chock-full of things like the Freer thread that comprehensively demonstrate the racism, sexism, homophobia etc within their groups.
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So when they see other people saying, in generic shorthand, "The Puppiest are racist," they take immediate offence and think it's all a propaganda-style exaggeration, because THEY'RE not like that, which means THEY'RE being maligned!
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But I mean. In any other context, it should be pretty easy to accept that if (for instance) you enthusiastically vote for a politician who then proceeds to do and say really shitty things, people who are aware of your vote might, not unreasonably, be critical of your decision.
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Or, well. That SHOULD be easy to accept, but given the current political state of America and the Republican party, that's probably a bad example. *sighs heavily*
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The point being, if you belong to a group whose express argument is that left-wing, pro-diversity goons are involved in a Sekrit Conspiracy to take over SFF, which is Wrong, but whose group members also routinely demonstrate the same biases they're claiming don't exist... yeah.
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ANYWAY. This thread has gotten away from me a bit, but the point is that I continue to be baffled by the total, barefaced willingness of various Puppies to believe total lies about me and my family just because another Puppy said them. FIN.
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