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Author, fanwriter, trash bandit, queer geek feminist, dork. Jack of all pronouns, mxtress of none. Yells about hockey. Aussie in the US.

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    1. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

      Looking at the comment thread on Dave Freer's latest blog, it's honestly amazing how people tie themselves in logical knots because they can't accept that queer people just, like... exist?

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    2. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

      For example: Freer genuinely cannot comprehend that my queerness isn't a gimmick of some sort. Because I'm in what he calls a 'normal' marriage. he doesn't think I can also be queer. It's like he thinks queer means crossdressing, single, clubbing & sleeping around or it's fake.

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    3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

      Which, obviously, isn't me knocking any of those things, either singly or in combination. He just doesn't get that, while you can certainly *perform* queerness in certain ways, my being queer isn't negated by a failure to perform as he thinks I should, because I just AM queer.

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    4. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

      Another example: there's people in the thread speculating that maybe my husband and I got married for tax or childcare benefits? Not to go all Occam's Razor, but it shouldn't be that hard to conclude that maybe we just like each. (Plus, we got married WAY before having a kid.)

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    5. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

      Another popular theory is that my husband must necessarily be some flavour of queer because... I honestly don't know why? It doesn't make sense, but I think that, as they've decided my queerness is a victim-gimmick, Toby must necessarily want to partake of the gimmickry, too.

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    6. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

      As for his claim that comparing us to Breen and MZB wasn't MEANT to imply we're abusers - they just 'had a similar arrangement', so OBVS people would think of it - this is kinda like me saying Freer is straight, so his marriage reminds me of Mel Gibson and Oksana Grigorieva.

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    7. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

      I mean, it's also plausible that Freer just honestly doesn't know of anyone else in the ENTIRE WORLD who's queer married to a straight person who he could compare me to, but even so, the inference isn't exactly, uh. Subtle.

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    8. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

      The irony is that, if I call Freer and friends homophobic on the basis of these comments, they'll doubtless SHRIEK in outrage, because they don't see the applicability. They'll think all their gross insinuations don't count, because they're REALLY angry at a thing Camestros did -

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      Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

      - and they still think Camestros is Toby, therefore They Are Justified. The fact that none of that has ANYTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH MY QUEERNESS and wouldn't do even if Camestros WAS Toby genuinely doesn't compute to them. If I call them homophobes, they think I'm being Mean.

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        2. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          But then, that's half the problem with the Puppies in the first place. They don't accept that words like 'racist' and 'sexist' aren't just intangible, random insults, but are rather descriptions predicated on their actual, measurable beliefs and behaviours.

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        3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          There's a lot of reasons why this is, but at base, I'm starting to think it's a problem of binary, absolutist thinking: to them, someone is either *absolutely* a racist in every way, or the term is an exaggeration or lie and doesn't apply.

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        4. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          The idea that you can SAY something racist without fundamentally BEING racist - than you can be racist in speech or action, but without the INTENT to be racist - honestly doesn't make sense to them. Which is very odd: they can surely understand the idea of accidental *rudeness*.

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        5. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          You can hurt someone without meaning to. You can upset someone with ignorance, or thoughtlessness, or by stereotyping in any context. These are basics of human behaviour. But apply the same to racism, homophobia and sexism, and somehow intent becomes an inviolable yardstick.

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        6. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          I find this especially puzzling when it comes to instances like the Freer post & its comments, where the intent is very clearly to disparage me by referencing my queerness. If intent is required to declare homophobia, surely this meets their own standards?

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        7. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          But still, I suspect they'd disagree. Their intent is to disparage ME, not queerness, so even though a gross misapprehension of queerness is crucial to that disparagement, queerness itself is still not the actual *target*, and therefore not the subject of their intent.

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        8. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          This is, frankly, bullshit. Again, the Puppies are quite capable of detecting and taking offence at such "incidental" or inferred disparagement when it's directed at THEM, or at institutions they care about - the real issue is that they're just not moved by the issues.

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        9. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          Which is, in turn, why so many of them are happy to stand beside genuinely horrifying people, so long as they themselves aren't the subject of their horrific remarks - and why they're then angered and mystified to be told their acceptance of those beliefs is akin to sharing them.

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        10. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          To be clear: being friends with or supporting someone doesn't, ipso facto, imply that you fully condone, know of & agree with everything they've ever said or done. But clear political statements, in a context where you're explicitly being asked to respond to them, is different.

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        11. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          As, for that matter, is affiliation with a group or movement with an expressly political stance. Again, nobody expects every individual member to be 100% behind everything such a group does or says, but continuing membership/affiliation is, itself, a statement of general support.

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        12. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          This is something individual Puppies seem to struggle with: the idea that the political aspect of their movement, whether Sad or Rabid, is chock-full of things like the Freer thread that comprehensively demonstrate the racism, sexism, homophobia etc within their groups.

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        13. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          So when they see other people saying, in generic shorthand, "The Puppiest are racist," they take immediate offence and think it's all a propaganda-style exaggeration, because THEY'RE not like that, which means THEY'RE being maligned!

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        14. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          But I mean. In any other context, it should be pretty easy to accept that if (for instance) you enthusiastically vote for a politician who then proceeds to do and say really shitty things, people who are aware of your vote might, not unreasonably, be critical of your decision.

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        15. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          Or, well. That SHOULD be easy to accept, but given the current political state of America and the Republican party, that's probably a bad example. *sighs heavily*

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        16. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          The point being, if you belong to a group whose express argument is that left-wing, pro-diversity goons are involved in a Sekrit Conspiracy to take over SFF, which is Wrong, but whose group members also routinely demonstrate the same biases they're claiming don't exist... yeah.

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        17. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 31 Jan 2018

          ANYWAY. This thread has gotten away from me a bit, but the point is that I continue to be baffled by the total, barefaced willingness of various Puppies to believe total lies about me and my family just because another Puppy said them. FIN.

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