The first time Angel meets Fred, he's overtaken by a demon - she helps restore him. The last time they meet, he fails to do the same.
@krveale That's a very poetic - and accurate - way of putting it. I hate that Fred is fridged, but I do love Illyria as a separate chara.
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@fozmeadows Thanks! And agreed completely about Illyria.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@fozmeadows I think Whedon is a good example of "It's okay to like problematic media." He's better and more progressive...Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@fozmeadows ...than most TV, but that doesn't eliminate the problems which exist in his work. And CRUMBS there are problems in places.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@fozmeadows Friends and I worked out that male characters not relevant to the show anymore exit stage left left; women die.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@fozmeadows Oz survives, Riley survives, and there are others. I can't think of a women in the BTVS/Angel verse who just *leaves.*Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@fozmeadows ('A friend and I worked out'? Duh: it's pretty obvious. Sorry, I meant the *universality* of women dying rather than leaving.) -
@krveale Yeah; it's depressing. It happens on lots of shows - the new Doctor Who is another bad one, frinstance. - Show replies
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