I've never claimed the trauma is comparable to that inflicted by the church; the claim is that the *logic underpinning the claims antis make* is frequently the same as that used in purity culture. that distinction matters!
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Replying to @fozmeadows
church logic: women are responsible if men look at them sexually. sexlessness is purity. if you have a single sexual thought before marriage you are gross and disgusting "anti" logic: romanticized rape, adult x minor, incest, etc. in fiction is bad hm i don't think i see it
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Replying to @yuzuemmahina @primogeovishap
the unifying theme is: your sexuality can only be expressed in orthodox ways. if you do sexuality wrong according to our morality, it will provoke bad behaviour towards yourself or others, and when that happens it will be your fault for not listening.
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Replying to @fozmeadows
none of it is coming from christian logic that's like "grrr only pure vanilla sex between married people is ok" it's coming from people who were fucked up by the fiction you're defending. i've seen people thinking that rape is okay, that a teen dating a man in his 30s is okay,
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Replying to @yuzuemmahina @fozmeadows
that abusive relationships are okay, because a lot of these ideas were (and still are) presented uncritically in media. and it ended up getting them in *real life* unhealthy relationships because they thought it was normal.
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Replying to @yuzuemmahina @primogeovishap
the problem isn't with the media; the problem is with a society & education system that doesn't teach properly about romance, consent and sexuality, such that way too many kids end up getting their *only* education about those issues from media. it's not fiction's job -
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Replying to @fozmeadows @primogeovishap
- to portray only perfect, ideal relationships or sexual dynamics for educational purposes! any media, potentially, can cause harm to the wrong audience, but that doesn't make the media bad; it means there's been a mismatch and potentially a lack elsewhere.
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Replying to @fozmeadows @primogeovishap
believe me, I am someone who absorbed some shitty ideas about sex and romance from media as a teen, but that only happened because of the total absence of information from the places that SHOULD'VE been telling me those things.
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Replying to @fozmeadows @primogeovishap
(the idea that fiction, especially YA, should only be moral and educational lest the children learn Bad Things from it is also, I will note, an argument of the religious right)
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Replying to @fozmeadows
do you not remember when thirteen reasons why came out and teenage suicide rates skyrocketed? are you going to call the people who conducted the study right-wingers for proving that children do in fact Learn Bad Things From Media?
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that is a very specific example about self-harm that does not apply to sexuality. there is lots of evidence to say that portraying self-harm and suicide in certain ways triggers those events; there is no such evidence relating to the portrayal of sexuality in fiction.
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