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Foz Meadows

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Author, fanwriter, trash bandit, queer geek feminist, dork. Jack of all pronouns, mxtress of none. Yells about hockey. Aussie in the US.

Irvine, CA
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Joined February 2009

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    1. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows Apr 5
      Replying to @DarkMatterzine

      Nobody has missed the point of your blog post, let alone intentionally. Nor was I the first person to stumble on it and react with outrage; I was about the eighth, so if you want to accuse anyone of "inciting" a pile-on, look elsewhere. You're being criticised legitimately.

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    2. Dark Matter Zine:  😷  💉  💉‏ @DarkMatterzine Apr 5
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      https://www.darkmatterzine.com/dont-be-a-hypocrite/ …

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    3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows Apr 5
      Replying to @DarkMatterzine

      This, right here? THIS is what you're being criticised for: the idea that being partially out for your own safety, or out only in certain contexts, is bad. The all-or-nothing idea IS GATEKEEPING, and particularly for, say, trans folk? Being out *everywhere* IS DANGEROUS.pic.twitter.com/YjOd1Tr3YS

      Screenshot that reads: HA: “some people get killed for their identity”.

Me: I know. Queers, disabled people, women, Muslims, they get killed all the time. WHICH IS MY POINT. THEY SUFFER FOR THEIR IDENTITIES. What I explicitly and repeatedly talked about in that post was NOT people hiding their identity, living in the closet. I talked about people coming out of the closet to snatch the goodies before retreating back into the closet. You don’t get it both ways. At least, you don’t on Dark Matter Zine. As I said at the bottom of the post: THIS IS DARK MATTER ZINE’S OFFICIAL POSITION. Consenting adults elsewhere? That’s between you and the gatekeepers.
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    4. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows Apr 5
      Replying to @fozmeadows @DarkMatterzine

      "people coming out of the closet to snatch the goodies before retreating back into the closet" - this is about personal comfort & often survival. Nobody is obliged to be out *all the fucking time* about every aspect of their marginalisation to be able to claim #ownvoices.

      1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
    5. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows Apr 5
      Replying to @fozmeadows @DarkMatterzine

      The idea that people HAVE to expose themselves to the maximum amount of suffering and vulnerability or you won't consider them valid? The subsequent revelation that you OUTED A WRITER because YOU, personally, were offended by their silence? THIS IS REALLY SHITTY.

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    6. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows Apr 5
      Replying to @fozmeadows @DarkMatterzine

      Given the fact that, by your own account, you lost a job because of your disability, you'd think you might be sympathetic to other people wanting to stay employed by not disclosing their disabilities to their employers, but no. You WANT people to risk being fired.

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    7. Dark Matter Zine:  😷  💉  💉‏ @DarkMatterzine Apr 5
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      No. I'm saying that if you want to hide the fact of your disability, don't then use that disability for personal gain on the rare occasion you think it will benefit you. Don't have it both ways. I said that at the beginning and consistently throughout.

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    8. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows Apr 5
      Replying to @DarkMatterzine

      Yes, you said it consistently AND THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE OBJECTING TO. You cannot seem to comprehend that the core of your point, correctly identified, is what people are saying sucks. Because it DOES suck.

      1 reply 0 retweets 17 likes
    9. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows Apr 5
      Replying to @fozmeadows @DarkMatterzine

      What you're saying is, "if revealing your marginalisation might cost you work or social opportunities in some contexts or cause you to risk violence, so you don't share it everywhere, you are NOT allowed to write about for money." Why? What's the sense in that?

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    10. Dark Matter Zine:  😷  💉  💉‏ @DarkMatterzine Apr 5
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      I did not say that. I specifically and explicitly did not say that. If you look at the original post and at my follow up, I explicitly stated that people can write identities they don't own but they must do research and write respectfully.

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      Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows Apr 5
      Replying to @DarkMatterzine

      Yes, you did. You said that if POC ever passed as white, if Muslims ever passed as not Muslim, then they're not ownvoices; your line in the sand was that people be out at all times, in all contexts, or it wouldn't count.

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        2. Dark Matter Zine:  😷  💉  💉‏ @DarkMatterzine Apr 5
          Replying to @fozmeadows

          I did not say "it wouldn't count", what I said was you shouldn't be taking opportunities from others who are marginalised and I won't support people "winking" at the audience. Own the identity or don't, but don't try doing both.

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        3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows Apr 5
          Replying to @DarkMatterzine

          How many hairs can you split? A marginalised person is not taking opportunities from other marginalised people if they're only out in certain contexts. You're acting still as though anything other than total out-ness belies the marginalisation.

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        2. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows Apr 5
          Replying to @fozmeadows @DarkMatterzine

          Here are your actual words. Nobody is misrepresenting you: THIS IS WHAT YOU LITERALLY SAID.pic.twitter.com/LohymoOfI7

          Screenshot reading: Meanwhile authors say “today I’ll be disabled but not if it means I miss out on opportunities”. They say “I’m queer but not when it’s inconvenient”. Or “I’m black but I will pass for white whenever it benefits me”. Every person who does not have a choice misses out on these opportunities. If you have a choice then you do not understand what it is to be hemmed in without choices. If you have a choice and you shed an identity like dirty clothing then you are not an “own voices” author.
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        3. Dark Matter Zine:  😷  💉  💉‏ @DarkMatterzine Apr 5
          Replying to @fozmeadows

          Yeah, so I'm saying, eg, those who have lucrative day jobs where they hide their identities shouldn't take opportunities from those who have FA because gatekeeping. Also, you don't get to speak for the queer community if you're not out.

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