Ok, so I fall in the middle here. Like it or not, the fact this allegation was not taken to the police meant that there was no investigation into what she said, so it came down to her word against his. Did she deserve death threats because of this? No. Did he (cont)
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(Cont) deserve to lose his job, reputation and livelihood because of this leaving him believing that taking his the only option? Likewise, no. No matter how you look at this it was a tragedy. How can we prevent this from happening again?
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Yes, he did deserve to lose his job. He was using his position to be abusive & predatory to those around him. Quinn wasn't the only one who came forward- so did his collaborators on Night in The Woods. Getting the word out is the only way to warn others.
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But without an investigation revealing corroboratory evidence it’s still just one person saying this, another that. The man is dead. That may not have happened if the accuser had called the cops. Even if he was completely guilty of everything, was the death penalty necessary?
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I say this again: you really think Holowka, a man with a history of threatening suicide whenever anyone tried to hold him accountable, would’ve been MORE calm if his victims went to the police? He’d still be dead and you’d still be blaming Quinn for making a report.
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I’m not blaming her for the report. I think a certain degree of accountability falls upon her for reporting to the court of public opinion rather than going through the proper legal channels. And yes, he may have killed himself with the police investigation. But then (cont)
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There’s no “but” here. Going to the police would’ve still become a news story and subject to public comment because they’re both public figures. If you think it’s on him in one scenario but on Quinn in another, the only difference is your judgement, not the publicity.
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But without police involvement there was no investigation, and no evidence proving or disproving her allegations. That’s my entire point. I don’t know who’s right or wrong in this case, and we probably will never know now.
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Well, everyone who knows him&has been on record, including professional colleagues from the past decade, co-creators of Night in the Woods, his former roommates in Vancouver, &his sister all believe the allegations &find them 100% in character. Too bad that means nothing to you.
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It doesn’t mean nothing. I just require proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Even if an accusation is in character, it still doesn’t mean it’s true.
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The problem is that the “proof” you seem to want here - proof beyond testimony and corroboration of same - mostly doesn’t exist in these cases. There’s no secret video that pops into existence when stuff goes to the police. It’s just people evaluating statements, same as here.
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The proof I ask is simple. Can it be proven in a court of law? That is all I’m asking for. Corroboration in this case would not be two people having similar experience with him, but someone without bias witnessing the experience, and preferably more than one.
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