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Author, fanwriter, trash bandit, queer geek feminist, dork. Jack of all pronouns, mxtress of none. Yells about hockey. Aussie in the US.

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    1. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019

      Foz Meadows Retweeted Hannah Bowman

      I’m honestly 🤨🧐 at this whole tweet, but the idea that SFF *in particular* doesn’t need to be YA is just, like... what??https://twitter.com/hannahnpbowman/status/1134534824310390784 …

      Foz Meadows added,

      Hannah Bowman @hannahnpbowman
      9) YA is almost un-sellable. Ask yourself: why is my book YA? You may find that it does not need to be. (This is especially true for SFF stories)
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    2. Hannah Bowman‏ @hannahnpbowman 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      I think my follow-up thread tonight might help explain? I think there’s a strong market for crossover books at adult SFF publishers, so considering whether a book might fit there instead can be a sound strategic choice

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @hannahnpbowman

      That makes sense to me, but the wording in the first tweet suggests something very different. Also struck me as odd given the knowledge that many YA readers are adults themselves, so the crossover market is already there, just going in the opposite direction.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Hannah Bowman‏ @hannahnpbowman 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      Right, and I’m focused on selling to publishers not readers. I advise clients to push crossover titles towards adult pubs because I’ve found it’s harder to sell to YA pubs. But my original tweet was obviously unclear and I’m sorry for that.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Hannah Bowman‏ @hannahnpbowman 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @hannahnpbowman @fozmeadows

      My point was to encourage discernment about whether your book fits better in the YA or adult markets. I see “does this need to be YA?” as one way of asking that question, especially because in my experience YA can be harder to sell.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @hannahnpbowman

      I think what confused me most about the original tweet is that word, “need.” I can see what you’re saying about the pitching context, but viewed in terms of story content, it almost felt like asking, “Does this story need to be what it is? Why isn’t it something else?”

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Hannah Bowman‏ @hannahnpbowman 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      That is part of what I’m saying, though: I think it’s useful to interrogate why the story is the thing it is, and to consider if it could be something else. You learn things about the story that way. It helps it find its true form, so to speak.

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    8. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @hannahnpbowman

      Granted, yes, but from a writer’s perspective, if this is a first response to *all* YA stories, it comes across less as a reaction to that story’s potential specifically and more as a particular agent’s reluctance to work with that genre/demographic.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Hannah Bowman‏ @hannahnpbowman 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      I am reluctant to work in the YA category, for various reasons, one of which is that the market is crowded in ways that concern me. Also that the books most successful don’t seem to be the kinda of stories I represent so it’s not the right fit.

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      Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @hannahnpbowman

      See, I think this makes more sense: it’s not your bag, and that’s fine! But that seems different to YA itself having issues.

      11:36 PM - 4 Jun 2019
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        2. Hannah Bowman‏ @hannahnpbowman 4 Jun 2019
          Replying to @fozmeadows

          I suspect it’s both, but I could definitely be wrong!

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        3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019
          Replying to @hannahnpbowman

          I think a helpful question might be, if YA presently is full of stories you don’t like, are he aspects you dislike held to be inherent to YA books/pitches, and in either case, can you - or would you want to try and - change that with the booka you pitch as YA instead?

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