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Author, fanwriter, trash bandit, queer geek feminist, dork. Jack of all pronouns, mxtress of none. Yells about hockey. Aussie in the US.

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    1. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019

      Foz Meadows Retweeted Hannah Bowman

      I’m honestly 🤨🧐 at this whole tweet, but the idea that SFF *in particular* doesn’t need to be YA is just, like... what??https://twitter.com/hannahnpbowman/status/1134534824310390784 …

      Foz Meadows added,

      Hannah Bowman @hannahnpbowman
      9) YA is almost un-sellable. Ask yourself: why is my book YA? You may find that it does not need to be. (This is especially true for SFF stories)
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    2. Hannah Bowman‏ @hannahnpbowman 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      I think my follow-up thread tonight might help explain? I think there’s a strong market for crossover books at adult SFF publishers, so considering whether a book might fit there instead can be a sound strategic choice

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    3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @hannahnpbowman

      That makes sense to me, but the wording in the first tweet suggests something very different. Also struck me as odd given the knowledge that many YA readers are adults themselves, so the crossover market is already there, just going in the opposite direction.

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    4. Hannah Bowman‏ @hannahnpbowman 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      Right, and I’m focused on selling to publishers not readers. I advise clients to push crossover titles towards adult pubs because I’ve found it’s harder to sell to YA pubs. But my original tweet was obviously unclear and I’m sorry for that.

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    5. Hannah Bowman‏ @hannahnpbowman 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @hannahnpbowman @fozmeadows

      My point was to encourage discernment about whether your book fits better in the YA or adult markets. I see “does this need to be YA?” as one way of asking that question, especially because in my experience YA can be harder to sell.

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    6. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @hannahnpbowman

      I think what confused me most about the original tweet is that word, “need.” I can see what you’re saying about the pitching context, but viewed in terms of story content, it almost felt like asking, “Does this story need to be what it is? Why isn’t it something else?”

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    7. Hannah Bowman‏ @hannahnpbowman 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      That is part of what I’m saying, though: I think it’s useful to interrogate why the story is the thing it is, and to consider if it could be something else. You learn things about the story that way. It helps it find its true form, so to speak.

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    8. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @hannahnpbowman

      Granted, yes, but from a writer’s perspective, if this is a first response to *all* YA stories, it comes across less as a reaction to that story’s potential specifically and more as a particular agent’s reluctance to work with that genre/demographic.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019
      Replying to @fozmeadows @hannahnpbowman

      To put it in comparative terms, if a male agent had tweeted that women’s fiction was largely unsaleable and that it was better to look for cross-market appeal by asking if those stories should be more male-centric, I think you’d see the issue with the premise.

      11:19 PM - 4 Jun 2019
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        2. Hannah Bowman‏ @hannahnpbowman 4 Jun 2019
          Replying to @fozmeadows

          I do, although I don’t think the situations are exactly comparable. But yes, I was giving the kind of advice I would give a client: “this seems to me likely to be harder to sell as YA. Could it be adult which would be easier, or does it ‘need’ to remain YA?”

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        3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 4 Jun 2019
          Replying to @hannahnpbowman

          It’s a point of pragmatism, certainly. But I’ll confess it’s the type of pragmatism I personally cringe at when expressed in those terms. It gives me war flashbacks to my most hated high school English teacher, almost solely because of whom I didn’t do English at uni.

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