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Author, fanwriter, trash bandit, queer geek feminist, dork. Jack of all pronouns, mxtress of none. Yells about hockey. Aussie in the US.

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    1. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      Stu: "See, we ask you a question and if you get it wrong, BOOYAH! You die." Billy: "And if you get it right? You die!" AKA, the reason why you don't debate sealioning trolls online. They're Stu and Billy. They don't care if you know the answer; they just want to play the game.

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    2. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      Billy claims they had no motive for killing Sid's mother then SECONDS LATER goes into a misogynistic rant about how he did her a favour because she was a slutbag whore. THIS IS MEANT TO BE A META MOVIE AND YET I SWEAR CRAVEN DIDN'T REALISE THE IRONY. *MISOGYNY* IS THE MOTIVE.

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    3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      I DON'T EVEN CARE THAT HE'S THEN LIKE 'OH BEE TEE DUBS UR MUM FUCKED MY DAD AND THAT'S WHY SHE LEFT AND I DID IT BECAUSE ABANDONMENT' LIKE NO, WES/BILLY, IT'S NOT THE ABANDONMENT IT'S THE HATRED OF WOMEN JFC

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    4. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      when your murderboyfriend tells you he just had sex with the girl you're going to killpic.twitter.com/suCZXmfQEK

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    5. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      it's perfect on so many levels that these fucking IDIOT KILLERS decide to stab each other BEFORE they do away with sid and her dad like come the fuck ON you painkinky incompetents

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    6. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      god this film is so EERILY FUCKING PRESCIENT in the most accidental (or at best incidental) ways. while stu sobs about being "sensitive" because his motive is "peer pressure", billy starts screaming that she's a bitch and tearing the couch up. they're the yin/yang of 4chan trolls

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    7. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      OK, film is now done! Verdict: I think Wes Craven accidentally chronicled the genesis of sexist nerdboy toxicity as a byproduct of being meta about horror tropes - specifically, by asking which characters in a setting would a) have that knowledge and b) act upon it.

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    8. Jay‏ @johaenniman 13 Nov 2018
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      Don't know if I'd agree on the 'accidental' part, but great thread nonetheless.

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    9. Anne Billson‏ @AnneBillson 13 Nov 2018
      Replying to @johaenniman @fozmeadows

      I agree. The terms 'fanboy' 'incel' 'toxic masculinity' etc weren't current back then, but Craven (+ Williamson to a degree) knew exactly what he was doing. You don't reboot the horror genre three times (as he did) without being aware of its stories' implications and subtexts.

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    10. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018
      Replying to @AnneBillson @johaenniman

      Not necessarily, I'd argue: Deadpool is a meta character and the movies are being done by self-aware, meta-fluent dudes, but Reynolds said he'd never heard of women in refrigerators when Deadpool 2 was criticised for using that trope. Ditto Joss Whedon's pop culture racefails.

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      Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018
      Replying to @fozmeadows @AnneBillson @johaenniman

      What I'm saying is, while reading more about Williamson and Craven might make me think this commentary was deliberate, I don't accept that a love of tropes and meta all by itself means that a writer has no blind spots about tropes and meta, especially re sexism.

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        2. Anne Billson‏ @AnneBillson 13 Nov 2018
          Replying to @fozmeadows @johaenniman

          You don't have to have a working knowledge of "tropes" and "meta" and/or manipulate them deliberately for your work to home in on psychological truths. Craven was a former Humanities professor. Just because we didn't use the term "woke" back then doesn't mean he wasn't woke.

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        3. Anne Billson‏ @AnneBillson 13 Nov 2018
          Replying to @AnneBillson @fozmeadows @johaenniman

          A lot of the truths reflected in horror ARE accidental or incidental - that's part of the genre's strength. But I would contend that Craven, of all people, knew what he was doing more than most. You're doing him a disservice.

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        1. Jay‏ @johaenniman 13 Nov 2018
          Replying to @fozmeadows @AnneBillson

          That's right, but I think in Craven's case there's nothing to worry about. He's always been a filmmaker concerned with social issues first, then crafting them into horror contexts. His meta-takes just came in later, playing on the reception of his works.

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