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Foz Meadows

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Author, fanwriter, trash bandit, queer geek feminist, dork. Jack of all pronouns, mxtress of none. Yells about hockey. Aussie in the US.

Irvine, CA
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    1. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      Stu: "See, we ask you a question and if you get it wrong, BOOYAH! You die." Billy: "And if you get it right? You die!" AKA, the reason why you don't debate sealioning trolls online. They're Stu and Billy. They don't care if you know the answer; they just want to play the game.

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    2. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      Billy claims they had no motive for killing Sid's mother then SECONDS LATER goes into a misogynistic rant about how he did her a favour because she was a slutbag whore. THIS IS MEANT TO BE A META MOVIE AND YET I SWEAR CRAVEN DIDN'T REALISE THE IRONY. *MISOGYNY* IS THE MOTIVE.

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    3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      I DON'T EVEN CARE THAT HE'S THEN LIKE 'OH BEE TEE DUBS UR MUM FUCKED MY DAD AND THAT'S WHY SHE LEFT AND I DID IT BECAUSE ABANDONMENT' LIKE NO, WES/BILLY, IT'S NOT THE ABANDONMENT IT'S THE HATRED OF WOMEN JFC

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    4. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      when your murderboyfriend tells you he just had sex with the girl you're going to killpic.twitter.com/suCZXmfQEK

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    5. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      it's perfect on so many levels that these fucking IDIOT KILLERS decide to stab each other BEFORE they do away with sid and her dad like come the fuck ON you painkinky incompetents

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    6. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      god this film is so EERILY FUCKING PRESCIENT in the most accidental (or at best incidental) ways. while stu sobs about being "sensitive" because his motive is "peer pressure", billy starts screaming that she's a bitch and tearing the couch up. they're the yin/yang of 4chan trolls

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    7. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      OK, film is now done! Verdict: I think Wes Craven accidentally chronicled the genesis of sexist nerdboy toxicity as a byproduct of being meta about horror tropes - specifically, by asking which characters in a setting would a) have that knowledge and b) act upon it.

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    8. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      I think it's really telling, for instance, that at the moment of Big Reveal where we learn that Billy killed Sid's mother, the fact that she was also raped (or had sex) isn't revisited. Had she really just been with the dude they framed, or did Billy rape her, too?

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    9. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      The fact that Sid doesn't ask this, even though her own issues with sexual intimacy stem from her reaction to the crime, tell me that Craven wasn't cognisant of or especially interested in the misogyny underlying the tropes he was otherwise trying to play with.

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    10. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      Craven's failure to see how drenched in sexism his killers are and how it informs their anger, even though he wrote them that way, reminds me of that famous @danielortberg piece about Women Listening To Men In Art History http://the-toast.net/2014/06/23/women-listening-men-art-history/ … - specifically:

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      Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

      Like the painters recreating bored women without apparent insight into *why* they were bored, Craven is recreating nerd misogyny without apparent insight into the fact that it is an actual, bitter hatred of women and not just using bitches and sluts as handy insults.

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        2. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

          When Sid tells Stu and Billy that they've seen too many movies, they retaliate with the line that movies don't make serial killers - the whole thing a deliberate invocation of the 80s/90s paranoia that video games, films, DnD etc were Turning The Youths To Evil.

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        3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

          Arguably the biggest sign that Craven misses the misogyny inherent in his own killers? SID DOESN'T CONFRONT STU ABOUT TATUM'S DEATH. They were dating! Was it Stu who killed her? Did Billy strike out on his own? Her death was the only needless one, a red herring on Craven's part.

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        4. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

          The principal is killed because, well, they're angry teens who hate school; even three years before Columbine, that's not a psychological stretch. But Tatum? You could maybe argue they were taunting Sid by taking her friend, but the plan was to survive. What's Stu's motive?

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        5. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

          They don't remember to taunt her about Tatum; Sid only finds her dead by accident, after fleeing. If their plan had worked and they'd gotten away with killing Sid and her dad, looking like heroic survivors, why wouldn't Stu want Tatum there to comfort him?

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        6. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

          Tatum's death, I would argue, is proof that Craven is playing with horror tropes without being fully aware of or invested in their misogyny: you can take that scene out of the film and absolutely nothing changes. It's there for shock and to throw us off Stu's trail: nothing more.

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        7. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

          ANYWAY. That was fun! I might have to watch the sequel soon and livetweet it in turn. Some nights, you've just gotta watch a horror film and crush an obscene amount of mint choc chip ice cream while spouting commentary, y'know? FIN.

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        8. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

          OH WAIT, FINAL POINT: I am COMPLETELY FREAKED OUT by how closely Murderboy Skeet Ulrich, aka Billy, resembles an evil, bizarro world version of absolute sweetheart hockey player Tyson Barrie. JUST LOOK AT THEM.pic.twitter.com/t3xEUGFCwP

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        9. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Nov 2018

          FINAL FINAL ADDENDUM: It's been pointed out to me by multiple helpful persons that Craven was only the director, not the writer, so much of what I've attributed to Craven here is really down to Kevin Williamson. My bad! I stand by what I've said - I've just used the wrong name.

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        1. Sam  💉 💉‏ @irishwol 13 Nov 2018
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          Ha! That analogy is pure brilliance!

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