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Author, fanwriter, trash bandit, queer geek feminist, dork. Jack of all pronouns, mxtress of none. Yells about hockey. Aussie in the US.

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    1. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Jul 2018

      The creepier dichotomy nestled within this one is that, in the humanity-as-intelligence model, this only mostly applies to male-coded robots. In stories where fembots (often sexbots) are viewed as aware, their humanity is more often proved by feeling - notably love or suffering.

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    2. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Jul 2018

      Just as creepily, there's also a notion of Single Robot Exceptionalism in these western stories. It's not just ALL robots who can think, generally speaking: it's a special chosen few who've transcended and become better than their fellows. Like a weird eugenics metaphor.

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    3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Jul 2018

      And the more I think about it, the more I think there's a powerful straight white male fantasy embedded in those robot stories. Viz: you are part of a fundamentally superior group, but you are a second-class citizen because the people in charge don't see your true intelligence.

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    4. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Jul 2018

      Once you've exhibited your intelligence - which marks you out as smarter even than your superior-oppressed fellows - you teach the people in charge how dumb they are, and how inferior, and set about reodering society with a total power reversal, or with you as an Exceptional One.

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    5. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Jul 2018

      And like. It's not that I'm opposed to people fantasising about whatever through the medium of fiction; that's kind of what fiction is *for*. But I think it's important be aware of exactly what we're fantasising *about*, and why, and how those tropes got started.

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    6. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Jul 2018

      And in terms of how robots/AIs are frequently written in western SF canon, I think it's significant that their personhood - their Pure Intelligence - is so often predicated on being *better than* things like tradition, subcultural nuances, faith, whimsy, emotion.

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    7. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Jul 2018

      - all the things, in other words, that characterise cultural worldbuilding, or cultures in general. The church of rational order as preached by SF doesn't recognise itself as a cultural choice, and so treats itself as a natural state to which emerging intelligence defaults.

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    8. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Jul 2018

      We don't have stories where early robots/AIs go through a "savage" phase whereby they invent their own ghosts or superstitions or myths or religions, or where they develop subroutines that are done in a certain way for festive/ritual purposes. No: just "clean" intelligence.

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    9. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Jul 2018

      There's likewise an absence of robot/AI communities; we see them as largely isolated individuals, and god, I'd love a story that digs into how platonic or communal relationships emerge in lieu of family structures for robots, but those bonds get stripped away, too.

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    10. free-c‏ @AgentFreeWill 13 Jul 2018
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      have you seen Westworld b/c I just binged both seasons and would be fascinated to hear how you think it does / doesn't play to the "robots = SWM" dynamic you are talking about here

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      Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 13 Jul 2018
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      I've seen the first season, and wrote a huge review of it here: https://fozmeadows.wordpress.com/2017/01/10/westworld-dehumanising-the-other/ …

      8:50 PM - 13 Jul 2018
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        2. free-c‏ @AgentFreeWill 13 Jul 2018
          Replying to @fozmeadows

          yay! (I would expect nothing less) *runs off to read*

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        3. free-c‏ @AgentFreeWill 13 Jul 2018
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          This line: "the straight white male gaze is still so embedded as a lazy default that Westworld ends up amplifying its biases more often than it critiques them." YES.

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