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Author, fanwriter, trash bandit, queer geek feminist, dork. Jack of all pronouns, mxtress of none. Yells about hockey. Aussie in the US.

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    1. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 27 May 2018

      Foz Meadows Retweeted Avery Nelson

      Dude, "whiteness" is not an ethnic heritage; it's a skintone. Being German or Dutch or Sami is heritage, and European POC can claim that, too; trying to "preserve whiteness" is a racist dogwhistle used by people afraid of miscegenation because they believe in white supremacy.https://twitter.com/karkas132/status/1000950149185589248 …

      Foz Meadows added,

      Avery Nelson @karkas132
      Replying to @fozmeadows
      the difference being that the people are are talking about that want to preserve their ehtnic heritage dont want to brutally murder and enslave anyone who is not of the same heritage and simply wants to be left alone, unlike the nazis who actively sought to murder and enslave.
      1 reply 7 retweets 42 likes
    2. Avery Nelson‏ @karkas132 27 May 2018
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      Okay, lets try to find some even footing here than. So say a German person of color talks about being proud of being black or middle eastern etc, and encourages how their fellow POC should only date/procreate with fellow POC's, is this black/arabian/asian etc supremacy?

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    3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 27 May 2018
      Replying to @karkas132

      Foz Meadows Retweeted Foz Meadows

      https://twitter.com/fozmeadows/status/1000940044650070016 …

      Foz Meadows added,

      Foz Meadows @fozmeadows
      White ppl "preserving [white] culture" pretty much IS Nazism, dude. Whiteness is a skin colour, NOT a culture; only racists conflate the two. Black culture is black culture because slavery, racism & diaspora stripped away other cultural heritage; whiteness exists WITHIN culture. https://twitter.com/GythjaDawn/status/1000934244825300994 …
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    4. Avery Nelson‏ @karkas132 27 May 2018
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      So basically what you are saying, is that if POC do the same thing that you are complaining about 'white' people doing, its not equivalent to racism or acts towards supremacy? That is a ridiculous double standard.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 27 May 2018
      Replying to @karkas132

      No; what I'm saying is that there's a contextual difference between people who've been robbed of their heritage & murdered for their skin forming a new cultural identity around celebrating the blackness that saw them enslaved, and white people arguing that whiteness needs saving.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Avery Nelson‏ @karkas132 27 May 2018
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      Thats still a double standard, I have absolutely 0 issue with black people or asians or arabians or what have you being proud of their heritage that lead to them having the skin tone that they have but implying that its wrong for whites to do the same is well quite frankly racist

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 27 May 2018
      Replying to @karkas132

      And there's where you're making your error: their pride is in their CULTURE, not their skin, whereas white pride in white skin is irrevocably founded on white supremacist ideas.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Avery Nelson‏ @karkas132 27 May 2018
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      inhabitants which would be people of a white skin tone. For instance I have never once claimed to be proud of being white, but I do say that i am proud to be of Scandinavian heritage which just so happens lead to me having white skin

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    9. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 27 May 2018
      Replying to @karkas132

      The Sami people are also Scandinavian; they are not white. Populations across Europe and throughout history have had massive regional differences re skin tone - southern France, for ex, was traditionally much darker than the North.

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    10. Avery Nelson‏ @karkas132 27 May 2018
      Replying to @fozmeadows

      But you see thats why the distinction between what is considered "white" covers a certain range of skin tones just as what is considered black/asian/arabian because of the slight variations of skin tone across these regions that still share a similar culture.

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      Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 27 May 2018
      Replying to @karkas132

      Please. I beg of you. Go read some actual history, not just what white American pagans claim on the internet, and then get back to me. You have literally zero idea what you're talking about and it's painful.

      9:50 PM - 27 May 2018
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        2. Avery Nelson‏ @karkas132 27 May 2018
          Replying to @fozmeadows

          I never denied that integration between cultures and ethnic groups happened thats an ad hominem argument on your part in this discussion.

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        3. Foz Meadows‏ @fozmeadows 27 May 2018
          Replying to @karkas132

          You claimed that the "traditional" ethnic populations of everywhere in Europe had always been white, which is wrong even before you try to define what "traditional" means. The Sami are not white, there are non-white Russians; it is NEVER that clear-cut.

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