This is nonsense---you repeatedly use data like this. Basically cheery pick things without ever looking at them holistically. It is completely dishonest to represent rail this way---and you do it while speaking about how people dishonestly speak about EVs.
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that data is nonsense. considering global EV marketshare is <5%, your data includes cars that aren't as safe as Teslas.
and it includes drunk drivers, intersection crashes, and many other causes of car crashes that you won't see in tunnels.
you're the one being dishonest.
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You are just hand-waving statistics (as usual) and ignoring stats that are against what you are saying. Yes, as I said EVs are safer than ICE vehicles, both both are less safe than rail. By several orders of magnitude. Tunnels don't make them safer.
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you're the one showing data for above ground gas cars when we're discussing electric vehicles underground. you're ignoring the situation and throwing out whatever numbers that sound like it's supporting your confirmation bias
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driving a car in tunnels literally removes several of the top reasons of car crashes huffpost.com/entry/top-15-c
you're wrong
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Well the cars come out of the tunnels and go to the stations---also cars themselves have inherent risks of combustion/catastrophic failure, all of which are far greater than trains.
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cars stay in tunnel until service ends. they're next to the parking lot so none of that street specific crashes apply but even if it did, no other passengers are hurt.
trains cars don't have catastrophic failure? derailment? again you're ignoring what applies to trains
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Specifically here, with these outside stations. You can see that there are tons of points where pedestrians cross right in front of Teslas, and the Teslas even engage with traditional cars along this point.
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what does this have to do with anything? where's your data that pedestrian crosswalks at car station loops have lots of injuries?
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It is obvious if you look at the layout of those stations. You cannot really get to the center collection point without crossing the road. We don't have data on injuries, but I expect them to be fairly comparable to ride sharing in general.
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"you expect"
again lots of guessing and no actual proof. your hate for elon clouds your judgement.
You are doing the same thing---my "Expectations" are based on actual data of cars and assume it will be several times safer than that, just not 30 times. Your "Expectations" are taking Elon's statements at face value, when most of his statements are demonstrably wrong.
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