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Why Does Urban Rail Cost So Much in the U.S.?

It’s not just the Second Avenue Subway: Nearly all urban rail projects in the U.S. cost much more than their European counterparts.

Just moving the goal posts---the same applies everywhere. You cited a number that didn't even take into account diameter. Obviously you aren't an engineer or care about these topics seriously. It is just Elon fanboyism for you.

Forstall

@forstall_

Jan 8

not moving goal posts. if you put elon's tunnel size (12.5) on that graph, it's literally still cheaper! Thanks for proving my point

The estimated minimum cost for 12 m^2 is about a million dollars according to that chart. His tunnel is entirely comparable to the average cost to build a tunnel like that. The y-axis is in cost per METER, so yeah NICE ONE.

Forstall

@forstall_

Jan 8

And if you can push 57k people per hour FOR A CHEAPER TUNNEL ($0 TAX DOLLARS), THEN YOU GOT A CHEAPER SUBWAY why is this so hard for you to figure out

His tiny tunnels aren't safe with Teslas in them---once LV has a major accident, I am not really thinking they are ever going to expand this system to 29 miles lol...

Forstall

@forstall_

Jan 8

Except when one Tesla is in an accident, it's in one of the safest vehicles on the planet and only 5-10 people are affected. Meanwhile, a subway

npr.org

Mexico City Metro Train Derails, Killing At Least 23 And Injuring Dozens

The subway train derailment occurred on Line 12 at Olivos Station in Mexico City. Photos from the scene show two train cars dangling precariously from the elevated track.

This is nonsense---you repeatedly use data like this. Basically cheery pick things without ever looking at them holistically. It is completely dishonest to represent rail this way---and you do it while speaking about how people dishonestly speak about EVs.

Forstall

@forstall_

Jan 8

that data is nonsense. considering global EV marketshare is <5%, your data includes cars that aren't as safe as Teslas. and it includes drunk drivers, intersection crashes, and many other causes of car crashes that you won't see in tunnels. you're the one being dishonest.

So your claim is that EVs in tunnels are 30 times safer than cars on streets? I could grant you probably a few times safer, but 30 times seems completely unjustified and out of the range of what is actually possible. Humans will be driving these cars after all.

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no my claim is that data using majority of ICE cars on above surface street roads doesn't really show how dangerous or safe it is when it comes to Teslas in tunnels because of the differences in cars and environment

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Don't forget these cars will have extremely high usage. Every charged minute will be on the road. They will need servicing very regularly.