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Fidel Orozco
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Fidel Orozco

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Interested in Startups culture, Concurrent Programming, Code Generators, Cognitive Sciences and Artificial Intelligence... but nothing achieved yet

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    1. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei May 5
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      ALL I WANTED WAS RAILS NEW: A 50-step saga in which I have two things: 1. an idea for an web app 2. a laptop that hasn't seen rails development since 2016 >_<pic.twitter.com/4L2fNi4Q2c

      Steps 1-20 of a very long saga of getting the latest ruby and rails. First iterm has to update. Then I can't remember what ruby version manager I was using. Then I don't know what version of ruby I need. THEN I don't know what version of ruby works with the latest rails. Then I get a mysterious readline error when I finally figure out all those things...
      Steps 21-39 of a very long saga of installing the right ruby and rails to make a new app. I try exporting things and passing options to rvm to compile with. I try updating brew. Everything's broken!! In desperation I google the error message and find a github issue from 2016 that tells to brew update bash. Seriously?? My shell is out of date?? Ok, I'm desperate, I'll try it. Then I try installing ruby again...
      Steps 40-49 in which I finally find some success! Ruby installs! But now how to I get Rails? Gem install? bundler? gemsets? no idea. Let's just try the basic - gem install rails. It installs 38 gems. Yep, sounds about right. "rails new" finally works...just as I run out of energy for the night. :(
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    2. Fidel Orozco‏ @forozco May 6
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      Replying to @sarahmei

      Almost every framework adds complexity. There was a time when all you need it to develop with Javascript was a browser and a text editor. Then Node, Webpack, Babel, Angular, React, etc. arrived each one with their own CLI, package managers, versions, etc. Now it is a mess.

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    3. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei May 6
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      Sure, but in those days your JS was 50% conditionals by weight for browser checking. I don’t miss those.

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    4. Mark Land‏ @mark__land May 7
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      Actually if you leveraged jQuery this solved all the browser compat issues. That’s what it was designed for. But people of today seem ungrateful for jQuery for some reason which is a shame

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    5. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei May 7
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      Right absolutely! But jquery is a framework, & OP was specifically talking about the good old days when all you needed was a text editor & a browser - no frameworks.

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    6. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei May 7
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      Replying to @sarahmei @mark__land @forozco

      Plus jquery wasn’t released until 2006, so there was more than a decade of JS development before it wad even available. Those were the bad old days in terms of conditionals, but maybe the good old days in terms of approachability

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      Fidel Orozco‏ @forozco May 8
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      I think that this days that Microsoft Edge is becoming another Chromium web browser, and that almost every web browser support CSS, DOM and JavaScript are good day and reasons for simplify the web development stack.

      8:40 AM - 8 May 2019 from Tlaquepaque, Jalisco
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