Can you direct me to where this comes from? What piece of lore did I miss where you read their meeting?
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She clearly believes in his plan, that is transparent in NO More Lies. And the thing is, the bit about being slaves to the cylce of life and death and having no choice isn't even a lie, like all good manipulators he uses a mix of truth and deceipt
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @TaliesinEvitel ja @AlasterLord
Which is fine but that goes back to the original point. Why does she believe him, the guy that's a walking frostmourne when the writing is on the wall that he's a bad guy. Either you turn sylvanas into a dummy or so blinded that she becomes manipulated/controlled again
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this person made a great point about abusive situations and trying not to become the thing you hate the most. 'ours is a cycle of hatred' and all thathttps://twitter.com/wow_mandi/status/1412787341530480644 …
✨Bex lisäsi,
Mandi @wow_mandiSPOILERS You know, Sylvanas addressed the Jailer on a personal, peer-to-peer level by calling him Zovaal. She clearly believed them to have an equal partnership in their endeavors. Most NPCs call him The Jailer, but when she said “Zovaal, we already have what we need”Näytä tämä ketju1 vastaus 0 uudelleentwiittausta 27 tykkäystä -
I think it may be slightly telling that more women seem to understand why Sylvanas was willing to believe this clearly very bad and manipulative person who could definitely hurt her any time he chose, than men. I'm not even being funny here.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @TaliesinEvitel, @formbextron ja
I get what you’re saying but I think if it is blizzard’s intention to parallel sylv&zov’s partnership to an manipulative and abusive relationship, they’re not exactly doing a great job of showing how the Jailer is manipulative. I think that’s what Nobbel is getting at- 1/2
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @LairaLyon, @TaliesinEvitel ja
- like everything we’ve seen of the jailer seems like he’s playing it all pretty straight forward not through manipulation. It seems improbable that from what Blizz has showed us so far that she was manipulated which is why ppl feel like this makes her look dumb?
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @LairaLyon, @TaliesinEvitel ja
he has been telling people different things though; sylvanas said the jailers goals were different than what denathrius said they were. and the best manipulators put the truth in their lies as well. sylvanas has been in a desperate situation for so long--
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @formbextron, @LairaLyon ja
--and because of her fear of what she saw after dying, shes gone along with it. she thought they had more equal footing, even when other people were telling her "hes a dick, dont do it". she absolutely was manipulated. doesnt excuse what she did of course, but yeah
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @formbextron, @TaliesinEvitel ja
I just think people want to see how she was manipulated is all I’m saying. Like not be told but literally showed how he convinced her to do everything she’s done in his name. Like I said idc that much but I get why others feel estranged from the story rn.
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judging by the cinematic and the position shes in now i'm sure we'll hear about it. its the pitfall of long form story telling, somethings things go on a bit and people get frustrated in the interim. same with comics and tv 
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @formbextron, @TaliesinEvitel ja
I guess that’s a problem with Blizzs patch story content. It’s not leaving people at a point they’re excited for more, it’s leaving a lot of people where they’re just confused and aren’t excited for this story at all anymore.
0 vastausta 0 uudelleentwiittausta 2 tykkäystäKiitos. Käytämme tätä aikajanasi parantamiseen. KumoaKumoa
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