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雲水
@foodofthegods3
To follow Christ does not mean to commit idolatry and venerate an idea of an individual man above everyone else; it means to "let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus" as said in Philippians 2:5.
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𝔼.𝔾𝕀𝔹𝕀𝕃
@e_gibil
The senses are the organs or perception of the mind. The mind is the organ of perception of the soul. And soul is the organ of perception of God. Your soul existed before you were born and hence, it shall also exist after your body dies. But let us not confuse mind and soul.
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雲水
@foodofthegods3
The mind referred to in my tweet you subtweeted was not the 'mind of Christ' of this tweet. I meant a mind preoccupied with prejudices and abstract information, not the mind that is empty of itself like Christ's mind was empty of himself.
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@e_gibil
But he who perceives in that way also discovers that he is not the "mind-self", given that the very fact that after discarding the "mind-self" he is still "himself" clearly proves the existence of a higher or "soul-self", as it is precisely the "soul-self" who is then perceiving.
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雲水
@foodofthegods3
Oh, certainly yes. I presume you are familiar with 'Atman'? It sounds to me you're describing it here. I don't deny its existence, but rather question the reality of the jivatman, the individual soul—albeit I know that on the final level all these are one.
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@e_gibil
That being said, you may realise that Jivatman is also an illusion (as it certainly is) or rather a "tool" as the mind also is. But this is a necessary tool, that which we are to use to become "the Prodigal Son" and return to Atman consciously and, let us say, "with experience".
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