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    Feminist Frequency‏Verified account @femfreq 6 Apr 2017

    It isn't destiny that keeps relegating Zelda to the role of damsel. It's Nintendo. Read @heresthebear's guest post.http://wp.me/p7K8cI-aJs 

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      2. Sammeh‏ @lozartist 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @femfreq

        I have a problem with this author completely ignoring Skyward Sword, where, altho not player controlled, Zelda has a very active role.

        1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
      3. Sammeh‏ @lozartist 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @lozartist @femfreq

        She's off saving the world and doing her part to seal away Demise three steps ahead of Link the entire game.

        2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. Sammeh‏ @lozartist 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @lozartist @femfreq

        Impa openly mocks Link for not catching up to her and Zelda faster.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      5. Sammeh‏ @lozartist 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @lozartist @femfreq

        Not to say she didn't get 'damseled' in the end, but it was very brief. Windwaker is also an example where Tetra/Zelda played a very...

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      6. Sammeh‏ @lozartist 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @lozartist @femfreq

        Important role as well. WW may treat her character the worst when she's revealed as Zelda, but she has an independent arc from Link thru...

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      7. Sammeh‏ @lozartist 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @lozartist @femfreq

        Most of the game. And she's still the only Zelda who actively JOINS Link for the fight with Ganon.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      8. Sammeh‏ @lozartist 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @lozartist @femfreq

        It's misguided to think Zelda's role hasn't been improving this the series, and while I really want a game where she's the star...

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      9. Sammeh‏ @lozartist 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @lozartist @femfreq

        It's hard to play this game and feel like she got the short end of the stick again. This is the most development she's had since WW.

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      2. the oopsie doodle‏ @cataquacks 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @femfreq

        This definitely applies to the series overall but it sells Zelda a little short given this is the most narrative complexity she's had so far

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. the oopsie doodle‏ @cataquacks 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @cataquacks @femfreq

        I'm definitely not on board with the idea that unless zelda is literally an armed fighter that her role is automatically passive

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      4. the oopsie doodle‏ @cataquacks 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @cataquacks @femfreq

        after link (functionally speaking) dies, zelda goes to confront ganon alone and holds him off for a century. We're told she's "fighting".

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      5. the oopsie doodle‏ @cataquacks 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @cataquacks @femfreq

        We don't directly see it but it's never sold as anything but an active, voluntary struggle. She's not kidnapped.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      6. the oopsie doodle‏ @cataquacks 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @cataquacks @femfreq

        And I don't know if the author is speaking figuratively, but the scene with zelda and the guardians doesn't play out how it's described here

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      7. the oopsie doodle‏ @cataquacks 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @cataquacks @femfreq

        BUT!! This is true of the series as a whole. The Zelda team have this pervasive idea that zelda can't have TOO active a role in any game

        2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      8. the oopsie doodle‏ @cataquacks 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @cataquacks @femfreq

        Ultimately, they've decided that no matter how active her role, there has to come a time where you bail her out. It's wrongheaded

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
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      2. towtansua‏ @towtansua 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @femfreq

        what about sheik, linkle, windwaker, and her role as playable character in warriors?

        5 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. Shadow Jack‏ @JackIsSerious 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @towtansua @femfreq

        Those examples don't make the series exempt from criticism for using a sexist trope

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. towtansua‏ @towtansua 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @JackIsSerious @femfreq

        even the HW example?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. towtansua‏ @towtansua 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @towtansua @JackIsSerious @femfreq

        anyway i want to be symathetic to much of that site, but not everyone is going to see use of trophe all that bad

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Shadow Jack‏ @JackIsSerious 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @towtansua @femfreq

        Yes, even with HW. No game is exempt from criticism. Tropes on their own aren't bad, but lazy sexist ones like distress damsels are

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. towtansua‏ @towtansua 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @JackIsSerious @femfreq

        don't remember her being distressed in HW. and any playable character in a dynasty-style setup is pretty strong

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Shadow Jack‏ @JackIsSerious 6 Apr 2017
        Replying to @towtansua @femfreq

        I meant that her not being distressed in HW doesn't excuse the other games for using the trope. Apologies that wasn't clear

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      9. Adam‏ @Soulhunter59 7 Apr 2017
        Replying to @JackIsSerious @towtansua @femfreq

        Doesn't she represent the triforce of wisdom? She's a political figure. She also leads the final line of defense in twilight princess.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
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