@felixgallo @samuelgmartinez Agree with you there :) But who’s in position to make the changes? Can the community fix it itself?
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@kellabyte@samuelgmartinez yes, especially if construction provided. What's your solution?0 retweets 0 favorites -
@felixgallo@samuelgmartinez Half the ppl want it to retain it's in-memory perf, the other half wants it to be a distributed on-disk system0 retweets 1 favorite -
@kellabyte@samuelgmartinez disgree about halves. Maybe 10% want on-disk cluster. Redis's core value is speed.0 retweets 0 favorites -
@felixgallo@samuelgmartinez That's fair. I experience these comments often so my perspective may be skewed :)0 retweets 0 favorites -
@kellabyte@samuelgmartinez cluster people are loud, so@antirez trying to satisfy. But clustering obviously inimical to performance.0 retweets 0 favorites -
@kellabyte@samuelgmartinez but I think@antirez understands that. Repeating CAP over and over is not 'ideas'. It's twitter rep karma.0 retweets 0 favorites -
@felixgallo@antirez@samuelgmartinez I repeat CAP because things are being made up and not understood. Ex. "relaxed CP".0 retweets 0 favorites -
@kellabyte@samuelgmartinez that's not made up. It's not especially valuable but it's a clear tradeoff as well defined by@antirez.0 retweets 0 favorites -
@felixgallo@antirez@samuelgmartinez I'm sorry but "relaxed CP" is made up and not accurate.2 retweets 4 favorites
@kellabyte @antirez @samuelgmartinez sorry you don't understand the tradeoff. I do, and it's not great. But it exists.
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@aphyr@kellabyte@antirez don't wat me bro, I don't like the feature and won't use it. But I understand it, flawed as it is.0 retweets 0 favorites -
@felixgallo@kellabyte@antirez The tradeoffs asserted in that thread are flat-out lies; how can you consider them "well defined"?0 retweets 2 favorites -
@aphyr@kellabyte@antirez 'flat out lies' is a pretty serious accusation. Sure you mean that?0 retweets 0 favorites -
@felixgallo@kellabyte@antirez Yes. None of the proposed WAIT+failover strategies satisfy the claim of opt-in linearizability.0 retweets 0 favorites -
@felixgallo@kellabyte@antirez If you're confident you "understand the tradeoffs", perhaps you'd be up for a little wager? ;-)0 retweets 2 favorites -
@aphyr@kellabyte@antirez I have a counterproposal. How about I donate $150 to the LGBT/disadvantaged developer charity of your choice.0 retweets 0 favorites -
@aphyr@kellabyte@antirez you spend 30 minutes writing a non-shirty, comprehensible explanation for salvatore for why his idea won't work.0 retweets 0 favorites - View other replies
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@felixgallo@kellabyte@antirez@samuelgmartinez I am honestly interested in hearing what exactly this well-defined tradeoff is, though.0 retweets 2 favorites - View other replies
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@justinsheehy@felixgallo@kellabyte@samuelgmartinez but what you end with, is not totally inconsistent, not totally vulnerable to part.0 retweets 0 favorites - View other replies
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@antirez@felixgallo@justinsheehy@samuelgmartinez When you make a mess of the trade-offs the system is unpredictable & hard to use.0 retweets 0 favorites - View other replies
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@antirez this is all in an effort to make a better redis (which was the intent of your google groups thread, correct?) //@kellabyte0 retweets 0 favorites - View other replies
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@antirez you already know redis so you can jump right to impl;@kellabyte and others don't, so they're trying to frame intent before impl0 retweets 0 favorites - View other replies
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@felixgallo@kellabyte If you relax consistency, you can't say you're 'CP'. And that's ok! "Relaxed CP" is a bad phrase for it tho.1 retweet 0 favorites - View other replies
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@felixgallo@kellabyte C/A/P isn't really helping: suggest formalising consistency model and describing that instead.0 retweets 1 favorite - View other replies
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@henryr@felixgallo +1. Making a trade-off is fine and design the rest of the system around that trade-off. Embrace it in the design!0 retweets 0 favorites
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@felixgallo@kellabyte@antirez and learn to say NO. We are all free to fork it and do what we want. But never try to be what you’re not0 retweets 0 favorites -
@samuelgmartinez@antirez@felixgallo Yup. Don't make a system that's extremely nuances and easy to misuse. Shut the door :)0 retweets 0 favorites
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