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Technical Director for Seismic Games. Won't ever shut up about erlang. Call of Duty Clan Wars janitor. Uses exactly the right number of spaces after periods.

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  1. Kelly Sommers ‏@kellabyte 9 Dec 2013

    @felixgallo @samuelgmartinez Agree with you there :) But who’s in position to make the changes? Can the community fix it itself?

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  2. felixgallo ‏@felixgallo 9 Dec 2013

    @kellabyte @samuelgmartinez yes, especially if construction provided. What's your solution?

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  3. Kelly Sommers ‏@kellabyte 9 Dec 2013

    @felixgallo @samuelgmartinez Half the ppl want it to retain it's in-memory perf, the other half wants it to be a distributed on-disk system

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  4. felixgallo ‏@felixgallo 9 Dec 2013

    @kellabyte @samuelgmartinez disgree about halves. Maybe 10% want on-disk cluster. Redis's core value is speed.

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  5. Kelly Sommers ‏@kellabyte 9 Dec 2013

    @felixgallo @samuelgmartinez That's fair. I experience these comments often so my perspective may be skewed :)

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  6. felixgallo ‏@felixgallo 9 Dec 2013

    @kellabyte @samuelgmartinez cluster people are loud, so @antirez trying to satisfy. But clustering obviously inimical to performance.

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  7. felixgallo ‏@felixgallo 9 Dec 2013

    @kellabyte @samuelgmartinez but I think @antirez understands that. Repeating CAP over and over is not 'ideas'. It's twitter rep karma.

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  8. Kelly Sommers ‏@kellabyte 9 Dec 2013

    @felixgallo @antirez @samuelgmartinez I repeat CAP because things are being made up and not understood. Ex. "relaxed CP".

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  9. felixgallo ‏@felixgallo 9 Dec 2013

    @kellabyte @samuelgmartinez that's not made up. It's not especially valuable but it's a clear tradeoff as well defined by @antirez.

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  10. Kelly Sommers ‏@kellabyte 9 Dec 2013

    @felixgallo @antirez @samuelgmartinez I'm sorry but "relaxed CP" is made up and not accurate.

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    felixgallo ‏@felixgallo 9 Dec 2013

    @kellabyte @antirez @samuelgmartinez sorry you don't understand the tradeoff. I do, and it's not great. But it exists.

    10:33 AM - 9 Dec 2013
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      1. Arf Installation ‏@aphyr 9 Dec 2013

        @felixgallo @kellabyte @antirez @samuelgmartinez wat

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      2. felixgallo ‏@felixgallo 9 Dec 2013

        @aphyr @kellabyte @antirez don't wat me bro, I don't like the feature and won't use it. But I understand it, flawed as it is.

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      3. Arf Installation ‏@aphyr 9 Dec 2013

        @felixgallo @kellabyte @antirez The tradeoffs asserted in that thread are flat-out lies; how can you consider them "well defined"?

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      4. felixgallo ‏@felixgallo 9 Dec 2013

        @aphyr @kellabyte @antirez 'flat out lies' is a pretty serious accusation. Sure you mean that?

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      5. Arf Installation ‏@aphyr 9 Dec 2013

        @felixgallo @kellabyte @antirez Yes. None of the proposed WAIT+failover strategies satisfy the claim of opt-in linearizability.

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      6. Arf Installation ‏@aphyr 9 Dec 2013

        @felixgallo @kellabyte @antirez If you're confident you "understand the tradeoffs", perhaps you'd be up for a little wager? ;-)

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      7. felixgallo ‏@felixgallo 9 Dec 2013

        @aphyr @kellabyte @antirez I have a counterproposal. How about I donate $150 to the LGBT/disadvantaged developer charity of your choice.

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      8. felixgallo ‏@felixgallo 9 Dec 2013

        @aphyr @kellabyte @antirez you spend 30 minutes writing a non-shirty, comprehensible explanation for salvatore for why his idea won't work.

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      1. Justin Sheehy ‏@justinsheehy 9 Dec 2013

        @felixgallo @kellabyte @antirez @samuelgmartinez I am honestly interested in hearing what exactly this well-defined tradeoff is, though.

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      3. Salvatore Sanfilippo ‏@antirez 9 Dec 2013

        @justinsheehy @felixgallo @kellabyte @samuelgmartinez but what you end with, is not totally inconsistent, not totally vulnerable to part.

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      5. Kelly Sommers ‏@kellabyte 9 Dec 2013

        @antirez @felixgallo @justinsheehy @samuelgmartinez When you make a mess of the trade-offs the system is unpredictable & hard to use.

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      7. Salvatore Sanfilippo ‏@antirez 9 Dec 2013

        @kellabyte so no real help, but thanks for the effort.

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      9. Eoin Coffey ‏@ecoffey 9 Dec 2013

        @antirez this is all in an effort to make a better redis (which was the intent of your google groups thread, correct?) // @kellabyte

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      11. Kelly Sommers ‏@kellabyte 9 Dec 2013

        @ecoffey @antirez +1. Once the fundamentals are understood then we can discuss implementation but that can’t happen without fundamentals.

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      12. Eoin Coffey ‏@ecoffey 9 Dec 2013

        @antirez you already know redis so you can jump right to impl; @kellabyte and others don't, so they're trying to frame intent before impl

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      14. Kelly Sommers ‏@kellabyte 9 Dec 2013

        @ecoffey @antirez That’s not exactly it. When a system has conflicting trade-offs the discussion has to back up and decide the goals…

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      1. Henry Robinson ‏@HenryR 9 Dec 2013

        @felixgallo @kellabyte If you relax consistency, you can't say you're 'CP'. And that's ok! "Relaxed CP" is a bad phrase for it tho.

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      3. Henry Robinson ‏@HenryR 9 Dec 2013

        @felixgallo @kellabyte C/A/P isn't really helping: suggest formalising consistency model and describing that instead.

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      5. Kelly Sommers ‏@kellabyte 9 Dec 2013

        @henryr @felixgallo +1. Making a trade-off is fine and design the rest of the system around that trade-off. Embrace it in the design!

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      1. Samuel García ‏@samuelgmartinez 9 Dec 2013

        @felixgallo @kellabyte @antirez and learn to say NO. We are all free to fork it and do what we want. But never try to be what you’re not

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      2. Kelly Sommers ‏@kellabyte 9 Dec 2013

        @samuelgmartinez @antirez @felixgallo Yup. Don't make a system that's extremely nuances and easy to misuse. Shut the door :)

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