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    1. François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 4 May 2018

      François Chollet Retweeted Mario Souto

      Fun point: it's important to remember that, in machine learning, the problem you're trying to solve is *always* misspecified. You can only *optimize* (fit to the data you have), but your actual goal is to *generalize* -- and generalization is fundamentally ill-defined.https://twitter.com/mariohsouto/status/992242166121431040 …

      François Chollet added,

      Mario Souto @mariohsouto
      Replying to @fchollet
      Isn't this an evidence that the objective function is misspecified? Using the direction given by the gradient descent but at the same time avoid reaching the global minimum seems a little contraditory.
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      François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet 4 May 2018

      The foundational tension in machine learning is between optimization and generalization. If you could define generalization as an objective, you could solve for it. But you can't! That's the point.

      12:22 PM - 4 May 2018
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        2. trylks‏ @trylks 4 May 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          But… you can! Shorter programs/fewer rules/simpler Kolmogorov complexity/… means covering more with less, part of that more is in the training, part isn't → generalization That may be the main reason why physicists are "obsessed" with unifying (forces, theories,…)

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        3. Mehrdad Yazdani‏ @crude2refined 4 May 2018
          Replying to @trylks @fchollet

          No you still can’t, because free lunch theorems suggest that you *can not* define a loss that always generalizes.

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        2. Shiang Yong Looi‏ @shiang_yong 4 May 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          Interesting. How do you think of the {loss, accuracy} gap between training and test set? An approximate indicator of generalization?

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        3. Elia Robyn Lake‏ @r_speer 4 May 2018
          Replying to @shiang_yong

          An indicator that you can't optimize for. (If you do, you're training on the test set.)

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        1. Aakash Kumar Nain‏ @A_K_Nain 4 May 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          Too good point to remember

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        1. Sakana‏ @sakanaa0 4 May 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          As I see it, whichever ML algorithm you use, there is a certain implicit generalization model involved. ML at its core is the optimization of the assumed generalization objective.

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        1. Volodymyr Kuleshov‏ @volokuleshov 4 May 2018
          Replying to @fchollet

          It's worth mentioning that we promote generalization implicitly via the the optimization objective when we use regularization, Bayesian methods, or simply choose the right hypothesis class (CNNs on images). Although it is true that gen-tion has no explicit closed-form expression.

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        1. DialecticalEngineer‏ @dialecticalengr 6 May 2018
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          Interesting. Does this follow from “no free lunch”?

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        1.  🅰rnaud Meuret  🤎 💜 💙 💚 💛‏ @ameuret 24 May 2018
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          In layman’s terms: if we could train an AI to design the positronic brain (which is inherently beyond our intellectual reach), we could avoid the AI apocalypse

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